# Battery and Ultra/Super-Capacitor Open Thread
**URL:** https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260
**Category:** The Happening World
**Tags:** lithium-ion-battery, ultracapacitor, energy-storage, batteries, super-capacitor
**Created:** [26 January 2026 18:09 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260 "2026-01-26T18:09:55Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [26 January 2026 18:09 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/1 "2026-01-26T18:09:55Z")
Analysis of the [Donu](https://www.donutlab.com/battery/)t hype:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8mkD6g9Ujc)
Cited pseudocapacitor article:
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359836825000691?via%3Dihub](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359836825000691?via%3Dihub)
Finnish rebuttal:
> **[Suomalainen startup väittää keksineensä superakun – professori tyrmistyi...](https://yle.fi/a/74-20204751)**
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> Donut Lab kertoo kehittäneensä akun, joka latautuu viidessä minuutissa ja kestää auton eliniän. Aalto-yliopiston professori pitää osaa väitteistä mahdottomina.
MissGoElectric attempt to reverse engineer and have AI write a patent application (?):
> **[MGE\_SolidStateSurpriseV2.pdf](https://drive.google.com/file/d/12RzqB_gl0WIfPiTSUrKCODu80MpdVdAh/edit?pli=1)**
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> Google Drive file.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [23 February 2026 17:00 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/2 "2026-02-23T17:00:10Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/uiOma6v_EZY/maxresdefault.jpg "Introducing: "I Donut Believe"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiOma6v_EZY)
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2QU_LpkSPs)
> **[I Donut Believe - Presenting Third Party Results](https://idonutbelieve.com/)**
>
> The place where independent analysis of Donut Lab’s solid-state battery claims, with public test data, reports, and technical commentary is released.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [25 February 2026 14:06 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/3 "2026-02-25T14:06:59Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H45HXs4xXfA)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [3 March 2026 13:48 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/4 "2026-03-03T13:48:00Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3zbpym6-1U)
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzIpgYi4rjM)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [6 March 2026 18:23 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/5 "2026-03-06T18:23:59Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stRkaezrhJo)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [10 March 2026 13:49 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/6 "2026-03-10T13:49:07Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYdYyomuG2M)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [17 March 2026 07:14 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/7 "2026-03-17T07:14:40Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cpYeT4VmSY)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [17 March 2026 14:01 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/8 "2026-03-17T14:01:46Z")
[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/C8ljwigh9jA/maxresdefault.jpg "The Mystery Behind Donut Lab's "Impossible" Battery") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8ljwigh9jA)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [19 March 2026 18:41 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/9 "2026-03-19T18:41:53Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNX47A8BysE)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [22 March 2026 22:58 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/10 "2026-03-22T22:58:40Z")
This is just bizarre:
[https://www.batterytechonline.com/charging/omi-s-3-minute-battery-technology-joins-donut-lab-in-bold-claims](https://www.batterytechonline.com/charging/omi-s-3-minute-battery-technology-joins-donut-lab-in-bold-claims)
[https://www.linkedin.com/company/omielectricpowertrain/people/](https://www.linkedin.com/company/omielectricpowertrain/people/)
[https://www.youtube.com/@OMI-ElectromechanicalSolutions/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@OMI-ElectromechanicalSolutions/videos)
> **[OMI | US Based Design for Manufacture Solutions](https://omi1.com/)**
>
> Outsource design, engineering, and production to OMI to fast-track new product introductions and expand your brand offerings. 27 years partnering with OEM companies delivering manufacturing solutions.
> **[OMI | US Based Design for Manufacture Solutions](https://omi1.com/3-minute-charge-is-here-omi-breakthrough-redefines-battery-speed/)**
>
> Outsource design, engineering, and production to OMI to fast-track new product introductions and expand your brand offerings. 27 years partnering with OEM companies delivering manufacturing solutions.
> **[WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections](https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2025235958)**
>
> This patent search tool allows you not only to search the PCT database of about 2 million International Applications but also the worldwide patent collections. This search facility features: flexible search syntax; automatic word stemming and...
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [23 March 2026 13:02 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/11 "2026-03-23T13:02:16Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Ah0jXI3oU)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [24 March 2026 23:34 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/12 "2026-03-24T23:34:11Z")
Ricky thinks this might actually be an Li-free solid state battery:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWwPySIm9tU)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [26 March 2026 20:30 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/13 "2026-03-26T20:30:11Z")
A low apparent relevance hit today from one of the Donut suspects:
> **[WIPO - Search International and National Patent Collections](https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2026062326)**
>
> This patent search tool allows you not only to search the PCT database of about 2 million International Applications but also the worldwide patent collections. This search facility features: flexible search syntax; automatic word stemming and...
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [2 April 2026 12:35 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/14 "2026-04-02T12:35:13Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0158iGQbRI)
Good roundup.
Problem is some of the entities mentioned look as scammy as Donut.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [16 April 2026 12:54 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/15 "2026-04-16T12:54:01Z")
As opposed to lab tests, this installment is more Donut marketing hype largely for the motorcycle.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paCgX7wKbJI)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [21 April 2026 22:04 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/16 "2026-04-21T22:04:07Z")
[https://www.science.org/content/article/whistleblower-alleges-finnish-startup-s-vaunted-solid-state-battery-isn-t-what-it](https://www.science.org/content/article/whistleblower-alleges-finnish-startup-s-vaunted-solid-state-battery-isn-t-what-it)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [29 April 2026 23:30 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/17 "2026-04-29T23:30:05Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTlF4m7ktLg)
After damaging scam-o-meters around the world, they are now triggering kook detectors. In many industries there are kook hallmarks. Claiming any revolution involving battery swapping is a big one in the battery and EV fields.
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### Author:  [@drlorentz](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/drlorentz)
#### Post date: [29 April 2026 23:41 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/18 "2026-04-29T23:41:40Z")
Well, at least they used a Fluke DVM. 😃
We’ll find out soon enough if these guys are for real once they start shipping product, which is supposed to be any day now, right?
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [15 May 2026 00:15 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/19 "2026-05-15T00:15:31Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40tLHqdANRw)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [21 May 2026 16:27 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/battery-and-ultra-super-capacitor-open-thread/6260/20 "2026-05-21T16:27:44Z")
Anti-Donut:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQFVIs4leig)
2026 CN test standards for solid state.
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