# Burning Car Carrier in the Atlantic (now lithium ion battery fire forum)
**URL:** https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908
**Category:** The Happening World
**Tags:** lithium-ion-battery, ev-fire, porsche, battery-fire, felicity-ace
**Created:** [19 February 2022 15:58 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908 "2022-02-19T15:58:49Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 3
### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [3 July 2024 18:44 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/41 "2024-07-03T18:44:43Z")
> **[Electric Amazon Delivery Vans Keep Burning Down, And Chargers May Be To Blame...](https://autos.yahoo.com/electric-amazon-delivery-vans-keep-162000936.html)**
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> EV fires, while severe, aren’t as common as some naysayers predicted when electric power first started gaining popularity. So when a pattern in EV fires starts to emerge — say, when Rivian vans keep catching fire at Amazon distribution centers — one...
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### Author:  [@nagle](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/nagle)
#### Post date: [18 July 2024 06:53 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/42 "2024-07-18T06:53:24Z")
There’s progress on this. Lithium-iron phosphate on the low end, solid-state batteries on the high end.
Solid-state batteries are just starting to work. [You can now buy early versions at Home Depot.[1]](https://www.homedepot.com/p/YOSHINO-Solid-State-Portable-Power-Station-4-000W-6-000W-Peak-Push-Button-Start-Battery-Generator-for-Home-Camping-RV-B4000-SST/327262379) Not good enough for volume use in cars yet.
If 10-minute charging can be achieved, which looks feasible, chargers can replace gas pumps on a one for one basis.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [18 July 2024 10:13 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/43 "2024-07-18T10:13:18Z")
> [@nagle](#):
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> Solid-state batteries are just starting to work. [You can now buy early versions at Home Depot.[1] ](https://www.homedepot.com/p/YOSHINO-Solid-State-Portable-Power-Station-4-000W-6-000W-Peak-Push-Button-Start-Battery-Generator-for-Home-Camping-RV-B4000-SST/327262379) Not good enough for volume use in cars yet.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AZRPItAsfA)
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### Author:  [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)
#### Post date: [19 July 2024 08:30 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/44 "2024-07-19T08:30:55Z")
BTW. Yoshino created the first safe, production-viable lithium-ion battery, and (co-)won the Nobel Prize for it.
> **[Akira Yoshino](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Yoshino)**
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> Akira Yoshino (吉野 彰, Yoshino Akira, born 30 January 1948) is a Japanese chemist. He is a fellow of Asahi Kasei Corporation and a professor at Meijo University in Nagoya. He created the first safe, production-viable lithium-ion battery, which became used widely in cellular phones and notebook computers. Yoshino was awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 2019 alongside M. Stanley Whittingham and John B. Goodenough.
> Yoshino was born in Suita, Japan, on 30 January 1948. He graduated from Kitano H...
The company seems to be unaffiliated with the Nobel prize winner though: [https://yoshinopower.com/pages/solid-state-technology](https://yoshinopower.com/pages/solid-state-technology) (thanks @CTLaw for double-checking this)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [19 July 2024 10:49 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/45 "2024-07-19T10:49:12Z")
> [@eggspurt](#):
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> BTW. [Yoshino](https://yoshinopower.com/pages/solid-state-technology)’s founder created
Or there is no relationship and the company just took his name.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [19 July 2024 11:15 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/46 "2024-07-19T11:15:53Z")
[https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-recalls-24000-minivans-fire-risks-urges-owners-park-outside-2024-07-18/](https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/stellantis-recalls-24000-minivans-fire-risks-urges-owners-park-outside-2024-07-18/)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [19 July 2024 18:14 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/47 "2024-07-19T18:14:02Z")
Something is strange about Yoshino.
Here’s a US trademark registration:
[https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=97976526&caseSearchType=US\_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch](https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=97976526&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch)
This is CA secstate info on the registrantnt:
#### ALPHA STAR LLC (201913610090)
Request Certificate
* * *
| Initial Filing Date | 05/10/2019 |
| --- | --- |
| Status | Active |
| Standing - SOS | Good |
| Standing - FTB | Good |
| Standing - Agent | Good |
| Standing - VCFCF | Good |
| Formed In | CALIFORNIA |
| Entity Type | Limited Liability Company - CA |
| Principal Address | 8676 ROCHESTER AVE RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91730 |
| Mailing Address | 8676 ROCHESTER AVE RANCHO CUCAMONGA,CA91730 |
| Statement of Info Due Date | 05/31/2025 |
| Agent | Individual TIAN LEI HAN 8676 ROCHESTER AVE RANCHO CUCAMONGA, CA 91730 |
Here’s a JP registration filed by after the US was filed and by a JP applicant Yoshino Power Japan Co., Ltd.:
[https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/#/tmview/detail/JP502023000076067](https://www.tmdn.org/tmview/#/tmview/detail/JP502023000076067)
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### Author:  [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)
#### Post date: [20 July 2024 06:28 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/48 "2024-07-20T06:28:47Z")
Hmm, you’re right – my source was wrong, there doesn’t seem to be much evidence that he’s associated with this company.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [28 July 2024 01:00 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/49 "2024-07-28T01:00:41Z")
Land Shark:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIIxRWjBMnE)
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEFxRcfM3xE)
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### Author:  [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)
#### Post date: [28 July 2024 01:06 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/50 "2024-07-28T01:06:18Z")
Barstow is a major rest stop on the way to Vegas: outlet malls and In N Out Burger.
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### Author:  [@jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/jdougan)
#### Post date: [28 July 2024 01:09 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/51 "2024-07-28T01:09:55Z")
“We were somewhere around Barstow on the edge of the desert when the drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like “I feel a bit lightheaded; maybe you should drive…” And suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us and the sky was full of what looked like huge bats, all swooping and screeching and diving around the car, which was going about a hundred miles an hour with the top down to Las Vegas.”
― Hunter S. Thompson, [Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1309111)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [7 August 2024 13:55 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/52 "2024-08-07T13:55:20Z")
> **[Moment dog sets house on fire after chewing power bank in Oklahoma](https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/cg798rkylxxo)**
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> The blaze started with a spark caused by a portable lithium-ion battery cable.
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### Author:  [@gms](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/gms)
#### Post date: [12 August 2024 21:46 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/53 "2024-08-12T21:46:16Z")
The cat must have had something to do with getting the dog to start chewing on the battery pack,
The dog’s name from now on will be Sparky 😉
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### Author:  [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)
#### Post date: [19 August 2024 19:20 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/54 "2024-08-19T19:20:07Z")
Battery-powered trains:
> **[Great Western Railway’s innovative fast-charge battery trial now under way |...](https://news.gwr.com/news/great-western-railways-innovative-fast-charge-battery-trial-now-under-way)**
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> Great Western Railway’s innovative fast-charge battery trial officially commenced today (Monday 18 March).
My question – why batteries if they could use supercapacitors?
> **[Capacitor electric vehicle](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_electric_vehicle)**
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> A capacitor electric vehicle is a vehicle that uses supercapacitors (also called ultracapacitors) to store electricity.
> As of 2010\[update\]\[needs update\], the best ultracapacitors can only store about 5% of the energy that lithium-ion rechargeable batteries can, limiting them to a couple of miles per charge. This makes them ineffective as a general energy storage medium for passenger vehicles. But ultracapacitors can charge much faster than batteries, so in vehicles such as buses that have to s...
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### Author:  [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)
#### Post date: [20 August 2024 14:22 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/55 "2024-08-20T14:22:35Z")
Interesting how many utility-provided battery systems there are in CA:
[](https://x.com/johnrhanger/status/1825496560920072551/photo/1)
In the meantime, a friend traveling on West coast has shared with me a video of an arcing power line, even without wind:
[![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/8/d/8df60abb7da42af36362070143cf0953491c2264.jpeg "Electric power lines arc and create "power flash" in high winds") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNaIChPiiww&t=10)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [20 August 2024 14:36 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/56 "2024-08-20T14:36:35Z")
> **[Tesla Semi fire prompts hours-long closure of I-80](https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-fire-prompts-closure-i-80/)**
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> Reports emerged on Monday stating that I-80 was closed for several hours due to a Tesla Semi fire.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3mITL6kzkY&t=243)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [1 October 2024 01:54 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/57 "2024-10-01T01:54:31Z")
> **[Tesla catches fire in flooded garage during Helene](https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c2dpnpe1jjeo)**
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> The family in the home made it out safely before their house was completely destroyed from the fire.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [13 October 2024 14:03 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/58 "2024-10-13T14:03:14Z")
Last month:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dikJSLYDNmU)
> **[Lithium battery truck catches fire near Indian Springs; 3rd such fire in...](https://pvtimes.com/news/lithium-battery-truck-catches-fire-near-indian-springs-3rd-such-fire-in-recent-months-135722/)**
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> A fiery crash involving a lithium battery truck and its aftermath shut down part of U.S. Highway 95 near Indian Springs.
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [19 October 2024 21:11 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/59 "2024-10-19T21:11:32Z")
> Six months after opening, the state-of-the-art fire station in Stadtallendorf, Germany was gutted by flames from a fire truck’s lithium-ion batteries. With no fire alarm or sprinkler system, the station couldn’t be saved.
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFyvZbS1P1M)
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### Author:  [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [11 December 2024 15:06 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/burning-car-carrier-in-the-atlantic-now-lithium-ion-battery-fire-forum/908/60 "2024-12-11T15:06:12Z")
> **[Chapel Hill electric bus catches fire; 10 other buses removed as caution](https://www.wral.com/news/local/chapel-hill-electric-bus-fire-november-2024/)**
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> The Chapel Hill Fire Department responded to an electric bus fire Tuesday afternoon at a transit lot on Millhouse Road.
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