# Elon, Trump on X space

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**Category:** General Discussion\
**Tags:** twitter, elon-musk, donald-trump\
**Created:** [12 August 2024 19:53 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836 "2024-08-12T19:53:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\
**Post date:** [12 August 2024 19:53 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/1 "2024-08-12T19:53:24Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/XSpaces/status/1822813953942040585>

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edit: rearranged a few items

> <https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1823035759655264697>

> **[Donald J. Trump](https://t.me/real_DonaldJTrump/17181)**
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> ON MONDAY NIGHT I’LL BE DOING A MAJOR INTERVIEW WITH ELON MUSK — Details to follow!

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**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2024 00:01 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/2 "2024-08-13T00:01:28Z")

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> <https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1823144316014911820>

Some technical difficulties with the audio right now

Edit: I got into the space but still hearing music…

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**Author:** ![gms](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/57b2e6/32.png) [@gms](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/gms)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2024 00:21 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/3 "2024-08-13T00:21:44Z")

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Approx 8:21pm EST

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**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2024 00:42 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/4 "2024-08-13T00:42:35Z")

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I’m in!

I can hear Elon speaking

added: watcher guru and Alex Jones are also hosting the same conversation live for those who couldn’t join Trump’s space

added: live conversation is available on replay (about 3 hours). Over 2 million tuned in. So far, 74 million views on X

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**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\
**Post date:** [13 August 2024 01:19 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/5 "2024-08-13T01:19:58Z")

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> <https://x.com/bungarsargon/status/1823165529525501953>

> <https://x.com/bungarsargon/status/1823166610703593974>

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> <https://x.com/greggutfeld/status/1823178323893408125>

> <https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1823174087033647604>

> <https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1823397087838634047>

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**Author:** ![eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/eggspurt/32/3686_2.png) [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2024 12:03 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/6 "2024-08-14T12:03:45Z")

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Duh, Elon is an immigrant.

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/439d5e/32.png) [@Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2024 13:12 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/7 "2024-08-14T13:12:03Z")

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> [@eggspurt](#):
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> Elon is an immigrant.

Elon is a _legal_ immigrant. “Nation of Laws”, etc. There is a difference between a thoroughly-screened better-than-self-supporting legal immigrant and a totally unscreened welfare-dependent illegal alien. Once upon a time, that difference was obvious to citizens.

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**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\
**Post date:** [14 August 2024 22:52 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/8 "2024-08-14T22:52:22Z")

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> <https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1823742501884453312>

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**Author:** ![civilwestman](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/civilwestman/32/25_2.png) [@civilwestman](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/civilwestman)\
**Post date:** [15 August 2024 12:07 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/9 "2024-08-15T12:07:34Z")

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> [@Gavin](#):
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> Once upon a time, that difference was obvious to citizens.

This is, of course, after how many years of the “media” conflating legal immigrants with illegal invaders? Same with semi-auto AR-15’s and actual assault rifles. Language is always the first casualty of revolutions.

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/439d5e/32.png) [@Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [15 August 2024 19:43 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/10 "2024-08-15T19:43:32Z")

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> [@civilwestman](#):
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> Language is always the first casualty of revolutions.

Off the original topic – but it fits with this discussion about the perversion of language by Our Betters.

I was recently called to a Jury Selection panel. Briefly, some lawyers with the equivalent of a _Letter of Marque_ were suing a phone company, supposedly to benefit the State Government. (Letter of Marque – it is in the Constitution – it turns a pirate into a patriot).

The claim was that the phone company had committed “fraud” by failing to collect a government-imposed fee to pay for the 911 emergency calling system. Of course, all we residents pay that fee in our monthly bills, and the phone company passes the money along to the government. The “fraud” claim was that the phone company had not been collecting that fee from business customers.

It is a strange kind of “fraud” where the entity accused of the “fraud” gained no financial benefit from its supposedly-fraudulent action. But an accusation of “fraud” against a big company is a good marketing tactic for a lawyer seeking a payout. A lawyerly perversion of language.

Clearly the problem was an ambiguously written law, or an honest difference in interpretations of that law, or billing software written by a somewhat incompetent $9/hour computer programmer in India. It is the kind of problem that should be resolved over lunch between bureaucrats from the government and the phone company – not in an expensive 2-week long civil trial. Needless to say … with my attitude, I was not selected for the jury. 😀

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**Post date:** [15 August 2024 20:14 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/elon-trump-on-x-space/4836/11 "2024-08-15T20:14:44Z")

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