# Final Boeing 747 Delivery

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**Category:** The Happening World\
**Tags:** boeing, b747\
**Created:** [31 January 2023 14:43 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683 "2023-01-31T14:43:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [31 January 2023 14:43 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/1 "2023-01-31T14:43:38Z")

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1pm PST farewell to B747 production:

> **[Boeing 747 Celebration](https://vimeo.com/event/2815427)**

> <https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/status/1620180154159857664>

The last delivered is a freighter for Atlas Air:

[https://www.axios.com/2023/01/31/last-747-boeing](https://www.axios.com/2023/01/31/last-747-boeing)

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [31 January 2023 14:50 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/2 "2023-01-31T14:50:16Z")

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> **[Analysis-Airbus and Boeing try to fill giant factories with small jets](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/analysis-airbus-boeing-try-fill-114006931.html)**
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> Airbus and Boeing have set the stage for the next chapter in their titanic rivalry by remodelling two of the world's largest buildings - gutted by changes in air travel. As the last Boeing 747 leaves its factory later on Tuesday, part of the...

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/439d5e/32.png) [@Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [31 January 2023 17:04 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/3 "2023-01-31T17:04:12Z")

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One of the advantages Airbus apparently has in the Chinese market is that Airbus has been building planes in China since 2008 – and now has started building widebodies there in addition to narrowbodies.  
[Airbus’ China assembly facility marks 10 years of quality manufacturing for A320 Family jetliners | Airbus](https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/news/2018-09-airbus-china-assembly-facility-marks-10-years-of-quality-manufacturing-for)

Boeing apparently only has a plant in China for finishing airframes built in the US – installing seats, painting, etc.

The internationalization of manufacturing companies may have long term effects which we have not recognized. Volkswagen reportedly now build more cars in China than in Germany.

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [1 February 2023 17:10 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/4 "2023-02-01T17:10:18Z")

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> **['Farewell to a wonderful beast': Branson's homage to Boeing 747](https://finance.yahoo.com/news/farewell-wonderful-beast-bransons-homage-181424501.html)**
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> British billionaire entrepreneur Richard Branson, who was inspired to start an airline with a single Boeing 747 after getting stuck on a delayed flight, paid tribute to the Queen of the Skies on Tuesday as Boeing delivered its final jumbo jet. "It...

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2023 12:48 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/5 "2023-10-23T12:48:42Z")

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Lufthansa will continue with updating 747-8 after all other airlines have dropped.

1. Lufthansa has a bias toward first class and business class seating. The upper deck and forward portion of the main deck are better isolated than available space in other aircraft.
2. Lufthansa has its own MRO operation so that service availability is less of an issue than with another airline.

[![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/1/e/1e2ced11484eac0fa037acec0f47664f8d73be46.jpeg "Why Won't Lufthansa Retire the 747?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IQDXmCE1s)

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2023 13:10 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/6 "2023-10-23T13:10:37Z")

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> [@CTLaw](#):
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> Lufthansa has its own MRO operation so that service availability is less of an issue than with another airline.

The lifetime of the 747 in cargo service is estimated to be another 20 years at least, so it’s likely parts and service know-how will be available to those who continue operating them. As this article notes, the nose door of the freighter configuration or some conversions is a great advantage in loading containers or outsize freight.

> **[Boeing ending production of the 747 means cargo carriers will lose a key...](https://www.businessinsider.com/why-cargo-carriers-miss-the-boeing-747-most-2020-7?r=US&IR=T)**
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> The Boeing 747 has proved itself well as a freighter and can carry more cargo than most. But one key feature sets it apart from the rest.

The last [DC-8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-8) was built in 1972, but five remain in service today, all flying cargo, so that’s fifty years or more after delivery.

The three largest 747 operators as of 2020 were all cargo haulers.

[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/9/d/9de2c26088b92dcdd2062c697c3a58c54d797a51.jpeg)](https://www.statista.com/chart/22311/number-of-boeing-747s-in-commercial-operation/)

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2023 13:50 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/7 "2023-10-23T13:50:20Z")

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> **[List of Boeing 747 operators](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_747_operators)**
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> The following is a list of current commercial operators of Boeing 747, and any of its variants.
> There were 440 Boeing 747 aircraft in active airline service as of August 2023, comprising 0 747-100s, 2 747SPs, 19 747-200s, 4 747-300s, 261 747-400s, and 154 747-8s.\[better source needed\] These aircraft are listed by airline operators and variant in the following table.
> Data at August 2023.

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [23 October 2023 14:26 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/8 "2023-10-23T14:26:17Z")

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> [@CTLaw](#):
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> There were 440 Boeing 747 aircraft in active airline service as of August 2023…

Interestingly, of the 440 in service, a the -400F and -8F—dedicated freighters—accounted for 320, 73% of all 747s flying, and that doesn’t include other models which are being used as freighters.

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**Author:** ![Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/439d5e/32.png) [@Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Gavin)\
**Post date:** [1 November 2023 21:18 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/9 "2023-11-01T21:18:00Z")

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> [@johnwalker](#):
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> The last [DC-8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_DC-8) was built in 1972, but five remain in service today, all flying cargo, so that’s fifty years or more after delivery.

That sent me searching. The last B52 was built ten years before that in 1962 – and, despite the $Billions/$Trillions spent by the Political/Military/Industrial Complex, it is still the US workhorse bomber today. Clearly US industry built things well in those days.

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**Post date:** [2 November 2023 00:49 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/10 "2023-11-02T00:49:04Z")

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**Post date:** [2 November 2023 11:33 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/final-boeing-747-delivery/2683/11 "2023-11-02T11:33:12Z")

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> [@Gavin](#):
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> US industry built things well in those days.

Compare to my nominally-US GE appliances, built to self destruct on warranty expiration.
