# How Not to Build a Country: Canada’s Late Soviet Pessimism

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**Tags:** economics, soviet-union, canada, politics\
**Created:** [26 May 2024 09:17 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655 "2024-05-26T09:17:46Z")\
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**Author:** ![jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/jdougan/32/2477_2.png) [@jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/jdougan)\
**Post date:** [26 May 2024 09:17 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/1 "2024-05-26T09:17:46Z")

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A few years old, but still relevant:

> **[How Not to Build a Country: Canada’s Late Soviet Pessimism](https://www.palladiummag.com/2019/09/19/how-not-to-build-a-country-canadas-late-soviet-pessimism/)**
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> Est. reading time: 34 minutes

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**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\
**Post date:** [26 May 2024 18:30 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/2 "2024-05-26T18:30:08Z")

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Maybe it’s the arctic climate 😂

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**Author:** ![jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/jdougan/32/2477_2.png) [@jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/jdougan)\
**Post date:** [29 May 2024 06:22 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/3 "2024-05-29T06:22:02Z")

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Who knows? It can be interesting comparing it to other countries at higher latitudes: Scotland, England, Norway, Sweden, Finland, etc.

I don’t think he/she emphasized enough the role of what has been called “The Canadian Establishment” [1]. Newman has later claimed these titans have fallen [2], but their replacements, whoever they may be, appear to be cut from similar cloth .

[1] [The Canadian Establishment - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Canadian_Establishment)

[2] [The death of the Canadian Establishment - Macleans.ca](https://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/the-fall-of-the-titans/)

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**Post date:** [25 July 2026 23:05 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/4 "2026-07-25T23:05:40Z")

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[https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-intern-nato-spying-9.7283752](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-intern-nato-spying-9.7283752)

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**Post date:** [27 July 2026 06:32 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/5 "2026-07-27T06:32:21Z")

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Colour me unsurprised.

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**Post date:** [27 July 2026 09:35 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/6 "2026-07-27T09:35:22Z")

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The woman was as an intern at NATO’s Supreme Headquarters Allied Powers Europe (SHAPE) in the Belgian city of Mons, it said. The prosecutor’s office described her as a Canadian national of Chinese origin, but it didn’t name or provide more details of her identity. It did not specify the third country or criminal organization to which she’s allegedly linked.

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**Author:** ![jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/jdougan/32/2477_2.png) [@jdougan](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/jdougan)\
**Post date:** [30 July 2026 07:11 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/how-not-to-build-a-country-canada-s-late-soviet-pessimism/4655/7 "2026-07-30T07:11:59Z")

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Probably working for Chin,a given other issues seen with the Chinese (read CCP) money in Canadian politics.

> **[Chinese government interference in the 2019 and 2021 Canadian federal elections](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_government_interference_in_the_2019_and_2021_Canadian_federal_elections)**
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> The People's Republic of China made attempts to interfere in the 2019 Canadian federal election and 2021 Canadian federal election and threatened Canadian politicians, according to Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) and the Parliament of Canada's Foreign Interference Commission. In late 2022, the Global News television network reported on a suspected attempt by the PRC to infiltrate the Parliament of Canada by funding a network of candidates to run in the 2019 Canadian federal el Can...
