# If Trump dies from his wound….. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Discussion\ **Created:** [13 July 2024 22:54 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764 "2024-07-13T22:54:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 06:28 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/22 "2024-07-14T06:28:57Z")
> **[Trump Gunman Reported To Be Thomas Matthew Crooks](https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-bleeding-rushed-stage-after-shots-fired-pennsylvania-rally)** > > Crooks was from Bethel Park, PA warning: some photos are graphic ---
**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 11:45 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/23 "2024-07-14T11:45:20Z")
This shows that SS countersnipers had the shooter in their sights and waited for him to shoot. [![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/d/1/d14f6f522ea1c5e6b43c3c75c9334004325ba0c8.jpeg "Footage shows snipers return fire at Trump rally") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieX5AcqGbHs&t=45) [https://x.com/Baltzar15/status/1812433464240578959/photo/1](https://x.com/Baltzar15/status/1812433464240578959/photo/1) ---
**Author:** ![BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/BlackPrince)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 11:48 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/24 "2024-07-14T11:48:01Z")
Something about this doesn’t make sense…the sniper lifts his head just before we see movement in the gun (presumably when he took the shot). Of course, there should be a delay between the sound of the bullet with the movement in the gun due to the speed of sound. In any case, something about the sniper’s movements seem “uncontrolled”…maybe he thought that he was being shot at. Strange. EDIT: I see that there were two snipers on the roof…maybe it was the sniper on the right that actually took the shot, not the one on the left (and closer to the camera) with the observable movement. ---
**Author:** ![BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/BlackPrince)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 12:21 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/25 "2024-07-14T12:21:02Z")
I just did a quick/rough calculation. Using a time of 217 ms between the sound peaks and the now known/reported distance of 390 ft between the shooter and the podium (not 249.2 ft as incorrectly calculated by Andrew on X), I get a bullet velocity of ~3100 ft/s, which, for example, is in the range of a typical AR-15 round. The bullet would have to have infinite velocity if the distance between the shooter and the podium were 249.2 ft. ---
**Author:** ![Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/hypatia/32/100_2.png) [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:21 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/26 "2024-07-14T13:21:07Z")
I can’t grok the ballistics lingo—what are you polymaths saying? That the bullet did not come from that low building? ---
**Author:** ![BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/BlackPrince)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:22 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/27 "2024-07-14T13:22:56Z")
> [@Hypatia](#): > > That the bullet did not come from that low building? No…only that Andrew on X doesn’t understand physics. The known/reported ballistic “facts” are at least consistent with each other. ---
**Author:** ![Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/hypatia/32/100_2.png) [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:40 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/28 "2024-07-14T13:40:58Z")
What about that photo showing the bullet streaming toward Trump’s head from his left? Is it real? If so he has to have turned his head just in time for the bullet to have ripped the top of his right ear off from behind. I just heard that maybe the shooter was rushed, because he saw those people on the ground desperately pointing at him, trying to get police or SS to DO something…… ---
**Author:** ![BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/BlackPrince)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:42 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/29 "2024-07-14T13:42:16Z")
> [@Hypatia](#): > > What about that photo showing the bullet streaming toward Trump’s head from his left? _Is it real?_ That is the question I now ask myself about _everything_. With respect to the picture, we’ll never know. ---
**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:45 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/30 "2024-07-14T13:45:09Z")
What makes you think it’s coming from his left? [https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1e2qju2/bullet\_flying\_past\_former\_president\_trumps\_head/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1e2qju2/bullet_flying_past_former_president_trumps_head/#lightbox) ---
**Author:** ![Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/hypatia/32/100_2.png) [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:46 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/31 "2024-07-14T13:46:19Z")
Oh you mean maybe it’s on the way PAST him? ---
**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 13:50 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/32 "2024-07-14T13:50:03Z")
correct, hitting the ear would not substantially affect the flight. ---
**Author:** ![jabowery](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/jabowery/32/5478_2.png) [@jabowery](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/jabowery)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 14:25 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/33 "2024-07-14T14:25:11Z")
> [@Citizen\_bitcoin](#): > > [Trump Gunman Reported To Be Thomas Matthew Crooks | ZeroHedge](https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-bleeding-rushed-stage-after-shots-fired-pennsylvania-rally) Hopefully the 4chaner spergs archived his social media content before The Founding Mothers memory hole it. ---
**Author:** ![Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/439d5e/32.png) [@Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Gavin)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 14:39 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/34 "2024-07-14T14:39:03Z")
There may be much incomplete or wrong information flying around – but one thing is already startling clear: _This event is yet another in the long line of abject failures from the DIE-crippled Secret Service._ If we were a serious country with a serious government: - the Secret Service agent in charge of security for the event would be named, shamed, and fired for his/her failure to put an agent on the roof of that building within firing range of the event. - the Secret Service supervisor who selected that agent would be named, shamed, and fired for his/her gross failure of judgment. - the head of the Secret Service (whoever that is) would be publicly shamed & fired for the demonstrated incompetence of the agency under his/her watch. All _pour encourage les autres_, of course. And perhaps some of the Soros Attorney Generals could stop looking for trivia with which to hound President Trump and instead seek grounds on which those three failures could be jailed. ---
**Author:** ![Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/hypatia/32/100_2.png) [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 14:39 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/35 "2024-07-14T14:39:14Z")
Exactly. If we don’t see his social media pages soon, he must be the only 20 year old in the world who was not online. I wanna know: was he suicidal? Could he hve been recruited as a teen or preteen to serve this purpose? Y’know, suicide by cop, go out in a blaze of glory….also who trained him to shoot? I have been fearing this for months. And I predicted that, if there were an attack on Trump, it would be set up as being by a white supremacist/skinhead now-Nazi for whom even racist, bigoted Trump wasn’t white ENOUGH. We cannot trust the FBI to investigate this. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/b/f0a364/32.png) [@BlackPrince](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/BlackPrince)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 14:47 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/36 "2024-07-14T14:47:48Z")
> [@Gavin](#): > > but one thing is already startling clear: _This event is yet another in the long line of abject failures from the DIE-crippled Secret Service._ Not if it were planned/staged. ---
**Author:** ![Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/hypatia/32/100_2.png) [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 14:48 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/37 "2024-07-14T14:48:54Z")
I said this in the first few seconds! And yet, we get the entire media dutifully jumping on the “rank and file” bandwagon: brave law enforcement! Heroic secret service! “they’re out there PROTECTIN’’ us!” No they effing are NOT, at any level. When was the last time something was PREVENTED from happening? The FBI should not be permitted anywhere NEAR the “investigation” into this murder attempt. Not after James Comey, not after the raid on Mar a Lago. Doesn’t anybody get it: They ARE the enforcement arm of the Deep State! They’re undoubtedly busy right now fucking over the evidence, just like they did t Mar a Lago, suborning the shooter’s family, messing with or “losing” his online footprint. Keep them out, let the Pa State Police do it. ---
**Author:** ![Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/439d5e/32.png) [@Gavin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Gavin)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 15:02 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/38 "2024-07-14T15:02:38Z")
From a commentator on [steynonline.com](http://steynonline.com): “_The current head of US Secret Service’s last job was head of security for Pepsi. To be fair she had worked for USSS for 27 years before that. Kimberly A. Cheatle is dedicated to increasing female personnel numbers to 30% apparently. DEI = DIE almost literally in this case._” In a serious society, that woman would be standing on the sidewalk unemployed this very afternoon. She has one job to do – and she failed! ---
**Author:** ![jabowery](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/jabowery/32/5478_2.png) [@jabowery](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/jabowery)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 15:08 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/39 "2024-07-14T15:08:33Z")
Is this the guy? ![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/7/e/7efd652b71ae4806830592d77c832d0487d0d9ae.jpeg) If so, Black Rock was too slow on the draw for the 4chan spergs. ---
**Author:** ![Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/hypatia/32/100_2.png) [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 15:08 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/40 "2024-07-14T15:08:39Z")
Do you mean it was a plan to assassinate Trump, which failed? And the SS was in on it? Or do you mean it was “staged” as a failed attempt? (If so, the shooter has to be the greatest marksman ever. Move over, Robin Hood! ) ---
**Author:** ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)\ **Post date:** [14 July 2024 16:01 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/if-trump-dies-from-his-wound/4764/41 "2024-07-14T16:01:07Z")
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