# MEI vs DEI

**URL:** https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775
**Category:** General Discussion
**Tags:** diversity-inclusion-equity, dei
**Created:** [17 July 2024 07:04 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775 "2024-07-17T07:04:16Z")
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### Author: ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)
#### Post date: [18 July 2024 18:57 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/21 "2024-07-18T18:57:35Z")

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But now that scotus has struck down affirmative action, diversity is not a compelling interest, they can go back to merit without losing federal funding?

The increase in Latino is a university of California tactic. California gave up on black affirmative action but focused on Latino. California struck down affirmative action in 1995 and again in 2020. And yet affirmative action for Latino is still kosher because 45 percent of the state speaks Spanish as a first or second language

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [9 September 2024 16:44 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/22 "2024-09-09T16:44:28Z")

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Caltech falls to 22 in Forbes rankings:

> **[California Institute of Technology](https://www.forbes.com/colleges/caltech/?list=top-colleges)**
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> California Institute of Technology

MIT is 3.

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [22 September 2024 11:50 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/23 "2024-09-22T11:50:06Z")

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May have to open an MIT thread:

> **[MIT students berate Israeli prof at talk, bizarrely swipe boxes of free pizza](https://nypost.com/2024/09/21/us-news/mit-students-berate-israeli-prof-at-talk-bizarrely-swipe-boxes-of-free-pizza/)**
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> Anti-Israel MIT students lashed out at an Israeli professor who discussed serving in Gaza — and bizarrely swiped free pizzas supplied for the event.

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [26 September 2024 00:37 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/24 "2024-09-26T00:37:02Z")

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> **[Caltech's latest STEM breakthrough: Most of its new students are women](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-08-27/caltech-long-male-bastion-to-enroll-majority-women-for-first-time)**
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> The California Institute of Technology, long a bastion of male STEM students, enrolls an undergraduate class of majority women this fall, the first time in its 133-year history.

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [26 September 2024 19:24 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/25 "2024-09-26T19:24:43Z")

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U.S. News & World Distort has not yet dramatically downgraded Caltech:  
[https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities?\_sort=rank&\_sortDirection=asc](https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities?_sort=rank&_sortDirection=asc)

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### Author: ![drlorentz](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/drlorentz/32/902_2.png) [@drlorentz](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/drlorentz)
#### Post date: [26 September 2024 20:33 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/26 "2024-09-26T20:33:16Z")

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> [@CTLaw](#):
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> U.S. News & World Distort has not yet dramatically downgraded Caltech:

All the rankings are bogus anyway. Usless News rankings rely heavily on faculty opinions, i.e., academics gratifying each other.

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### Author: ![Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/citizen_bitcoin/32/19488_2.png) [@Citizen\_bitcoin](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Citizen_bitcoin)
#### Post date: [28 September 2024 04:18 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/27 "2024-09-28T04:18:53Z")

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> <https://x.com/mark_j_perry/status/1839869753088786898?s=46>

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [29 September 2024 14:30 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/28 "2024-09-29T14:30:50Z")

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A more general collapse of Caltech :

[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/29/us/caltech-simplilearn-class-students.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/29/us/caltech-simplilearn-class-students.html)

> **[Court Rules in Favor of Students Alleging They Were Misled by Caltech,...](https://www.defendstudents.org/news/court-rules-in-favor-of-students-alleging-they-were-misled-by-caltech-simplilearns-cybersecurity-bootcamp)**

Although other big name universities are involved with the same codefendant:

> **[MIT xPRO launches programs with Simplilearn in Executive Leadership...](https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/mit-xpro-launches-programs-with-simplilearn-in-executive-leadership-principles-and-machine-learning-for-business-engineering-and-science-301710226.html)**
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> /PRNewswire/ -- MIT xPRO has announced two new upskilling programs in Executive Leadership Principles and Machine Learning for Business, Engineering, and...

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [9 October 2024 15:21 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/29 "2024-10-09T15:21:31Z")

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> **[ANALYSIS: Could this new admissions tool explain Yale’s post-affirmative...](https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2024/10/08/analysis-could-this-new-admissions-tool-explain-yales-post-affirmative-action-racial-demographics/)**
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> The Opportunity Atlas, a tool Yale introduced in the admissions process for the class of 2028, might explain Yale’s sustained racial demographics post-affirmative action.

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [2 November 2024 02:08 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/30 "2024-11-02T02:08:48Z")

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> **[Boeing dismantles DEI department — joining major companies in scrapping...](https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/business/boeing-dismantles-dei-department-joining-companies-in-scrapping-controversial-policy/)**
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> Boeing staffers who made up the DEI office will be absorbed into another human resources team focused on talent and employee experience.

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [17 November 2024 01:41 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/31 "2024-11-17T01:41:47Z")

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Several alternative links to one story:

> **[NASA staff call on Elon Musk after agency blows millions of dollars](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14079781/elon-musk-nasa-millions-americans-money-dei-agenda.html)**
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> Musk, along with former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy, was tapped to lead the Department of Government Efficiency.

[https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/nasa-staff-call-on-elon-musk-after-agency-blows-millions-of-dollars/ar-AA1u9Nag](https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/nasa-staff-call-on-elon-musk-after-agency-blows-millions-of-dollars/ar-AA1u9Nag)

> <https://x.com/OwenGregorian/status/1857756802445619396>

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#### Post date: [26 November 2024 01:26 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/32 "2024-11-26T01:26:20Z")

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> <https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1861211005029884242>

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### Author: ![eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/eggspurt/32/3686_2.png) [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)
#### Post date: [26 November 2024 14:45 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/33 "2024-11-26T14:45:49Z")

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[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/9/8/98833c117562faf6bd0a9e2d9a2053eee1a4bf03.png)](https://networkcontagion.us/wp-content/uploads/Instructing-Animosity_11.13.24.pdf)

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### Author: ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)
#### Post date: [5 December 2024 22:52 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/34 "2024-12-05T22:52:41Z")

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Caltech again:  
[https://www.invertigodance.org/formulae-and-fairytales/](https://www.invertigodance.org/formulae-and-fairytales/)  
[https://ci.ovationtix.com/36761/production/1198841](https://ci.ovationtix.com/36761/production/1198841)

> **[Opening Doors](https://pst.caltech.edu/events/opening-doors)**

[![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/1/f/1fa35caa913859caebdac727b2568a979edd62b1.webp "Formulae & Fairy Tales - at Caltech on Dec 6+7") ](https://vimeo.com/1035818650)

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#### Post date: [7 December 2024 04:03 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/35 "2024-12-07T04:03:51Z")

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> **[Boeing plea deal tied to two fatal 737 Max crashes rejected](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn0x1r60w4xo)**
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> The deal undermines the court and involves "contradictory" diversity requirements, a judge ruled.

Boeing and Biden administration in a DEI feedback loop:

> In a case of this magnitude, it is in the utmost interest of justice that the public is confident this monitor selection is done based solely on competency. The parties’ DEI efforts only serve to undermine this confidence in the Government and Boeing’s ethics and anti-fraud efforts. Accordingly, the diversity-and-inclusion provision renders the plea agreement against the public interest.

> **[gov.uscourts.txnd.342881.282.0\_4.pdf](https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.342881/gov.uscourts.txnd.342881.282.0_4.pdf)**
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> 215.12 KB

[https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29089563/united-states-v-the-boeing-company/](https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29089563/united-states-v-the-boeing-company/)

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#### Post date: [8 December 2024 18:38 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/36 "2024-12-08T18:38:22Z")

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Boola, boola…

> <https://x.com/eyeslasho/status/1865416154656743566>

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#### Post date: [8 December 2024 20:06 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/37 "2024-12-08T20:06:10Z")

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It is interesting that despite all those top-rated graduates in “women’s studies”, the Supreme Court still can’t find a woman who can define what a woman is.

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#### Post date: [8 December 2024 20:37 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/38 "2024-12-08T20:37:03Z")

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> [@Gavin](#):
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> the Supreme Court still can’t find a woman who can define what a woman is.

It is beyond ironic that SCOTUS is THE final arbiter of what the law means. I guess it means nothing that the laws consist of WORDS. It follows that if words lack precise definitions how can their combination have definite meaning? The Constitution requires that the meaning of laws must be clear, or else they are void for vagueness. It seems inhabit Babel, soon Chaos.

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#### Post date: [8 December 2024 21:17 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/39 "2024-12-08T21:17:20Z")

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It’s all so tiresome. Or, as the kids say, it’s so fake & gay.

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#### Post date: [9 December 2024 12:16 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/mei-vs-dei/4775/40 "2024-12-09T12:16:12Z")

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Maybe STEM departments should declare independence around the nation. One could also buy one of the failed campuses and create a student family-friendly environment for R&D [https://www.loopnet.com/search/schools/for-sale/](https://www.loopnet.com/search/schools/for-sale/)

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