# Roe v. Wade has been overturned
**URL:** https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586
**Category:** General Discussion
**Tags:** supreme-court
**Created:** [24 June 2022 14:32 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586 "2022-06-24T14:32:42Z")
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### Author:  [@MikeLaRoche](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/MikeLaRoche)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 14:32 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/1 "2022-06-24T14:32:42Z")
The Supreme Court issued its decision less than half-an-hour ago. Will America be facing another round of left-wing riots and terrorism?
> **[Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade in landmark abortion decision — Fox News](https://apple.news/A4kMz7JCCTBGLqjYvRxLEAA)**
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> The Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade Friday, with their ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, ending recognition of a constitutional right to abortion.
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### Author:  [@1789Libertarian](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/1789Libertarian)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 14:50 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/2 "2022-06-24T14:50:57Z")
So far from what I have read of the official opinion, Alito is becoming my favorite justice.
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### Author:  [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 15:03 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/3 "2022-06-24T15:03:56Z")
You can read the whole Fox story without finding out how the judges voted. Here it is, from the decision PDF.
> ALITO , J., delivered the opinion of the Court, in which THOMAS , GORSUCH, KAVANAUGH , and BARRETT , JJ., joined. THOMAS , J., and KAVANAUGH , J., filed concurring opinions. ROBERTS , C. J., filed an opinion concurring in the judgment. BREYER , SOTOMAYOR , and KAGAN , JJ., filed a dissenting opinion.
I guess that makes it six to three, despite Roberts having filed a separate opinion. I’ve already heard one politician spouting off about “five unelected judges.”
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### Author:  [@1789Libertarian](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/1789Libertarian)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 15:16 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/4 "2022-06-24T15:16:39Z")
Yes, the AG of Delaware stated that this ruling came the day after SCOTUS “dramatically curtail[ed] states’ rights to regulate guns.” She also stated that SCOTUS has opened the door to more “draconian abortion policies this right-wing ruling has enabled.”
Good, more grease for the skids on this ridiculous empire’s way to separation.
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### Author:  [@magus](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/magus)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 15:18 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/5 "2022-06-24T15:18:12Z")
[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justice-thomas-says-the-supreme-court-should-reconsider-rulings-that-protect-contraception-and-same-sex-marriage-as-the-court-overturns-roe-v-wade/ar-AAYPDpt](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/justice-thomas-says-the-supreme-court-should-reconsider-rulings-that-protect-contraception-and-same-sex-marriage-as-the-court-overturns-roe-v-wade/ar-AAYPDpt)
> - In a concurring opinion, Justice Clarence Thomas said the high court should reconsider previous rulings involving contraception, same-sex relationships, and same-sex marriage.
> - “In future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,” Thomas wrote.
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### Author:  [@civilwestman](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/civilwestman)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 16:00 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/6 "2022-06-24T16:00:56Z")
> [@magus](#):
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> we should reconsider all of this Court’s substantive due process precedents
Yes, the whole concept of “substantive” due process is exemplary of an exception which ate the rule - waaayyy out of control. Mission creep writ large. Initially justified to protect unenumerated _rights_ of the people from state coercion, this has instead led to their coercion via discovery of unenumerated _powers_ of the state!
The list of cases Thomas offers, if one considers only the outcome of their overturning - rather than the soundness of the Constitutional construction - is a prescription for trouble; they are at the heart of the leftist agenda and would, like overturning Roe, lead to civil unrest. As a matter of judicial power and Constitutional interpretation, on the other hand, a very good case exists that they were wrongly decided and a serious usurpation of power by the judiciary (as was Roe).
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### Author:  [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 18:28 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/7 "2022-06-24T18:28:03Z")
Here is the majority’s smack-down of the “reasoning” in Roberts’ concurrence.
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### Author:  [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 18:41 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/8 "2022-06-24T18:41:32Z")
_ **Legal geekery alert!** _
Here, courtesy of [Clear|brief](https://clearbrief.com/), are the complete annotated differences (including myriad tiny formatting changes) between the leaked opinion and _Dobbs_ as published: “[Tracked changes comparison of the leaked Dobbs opinion as compared to the final issued opinion](https://clearbrief.com/files/Clearbrief_Tracked_Changes_Comparison-Dobbs.pdf)” [PDF, 20 Mb, 1919 pages].
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### Author:  [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 18:51 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/9 "2022-06-24T18:51:27Z")
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The author of this tweet, whose handle has been hidden for some reason by Twitter (it is [@meghas](https://twitter.com/meghas), “megha satyanarayana”), a blue check who claims to be chief opinion editor of _“Scientific” American_, and includes pronouns of “she/her” in its biography, uses “science” in the same sentence as “people who can get pregnant”.
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### Author:  [@civilwestman](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/civilwestman)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 19:32 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/10 "2022-06-24T19:32:04Z")
> [@johnwalker](#):
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> [https://twitter.com/meghas/status/1540345703838502918](https://twitter.com/meghas/status/1540345703838502918)
I would like the see the argument explaining the “evidence” and the “science” involved in the decision and just how that translates into a Constitutional right.
This is nothing but the latest jargon/shibboleth advertising adherence to the day’s received wisdom; used to just be “motherhood and apple pie”.
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### Author:  [@1789Libertarian](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/1789Libertarian)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 19:45 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/11 "2022-06-24T19:45:50Z")
Now it’s birthing person and DIE (Diversity, Inclusion, Equity). It’s a pretty appropriate moniker actually.
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### Author:  [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 19:48 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/12 "2022-06-24T19:48:59Z")
I feel kinda like I did about the OJ Simpson decision. The societal consequences are maybe practically the most important.
How many more people woulda died that night if OJ had been convicted?
And conversely, how much destruction of churches and businesses will there be tonight because of the Dobbs decision?
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### Author:  [@civilwestman](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/civilwestman)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 19:51 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/13 "2022-06-24T19:51:15Z")
The majority opinion will also cause the gender-oppressed/obsessed/depressed crowd’s heads to explode: [even though we now know that since it has been declared to be sciency that men can also be “people who can get pregnant”, the following line of argument has now become superfluous!!]
“The regulation of a medical procedure that only one sex can undergo does not trigger heightened constitutional scrutiny unless the regulation is a “mere pretex[t] designed to effect an invidious discrimination against members of one sex or the other.” Geduldig v. Aiello, 417
U. S. 484, 496, n. 20 (1974). And as the Court has stated, the “goal of preventing abortion” does not constitute “invidiously discriminatory animus” against women”.
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### Author:  [@magus](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/magus)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 21:14 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/14 "2022-06-24T21:14:22Z")
> [@Hypatia](#):
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> How many more people woulda died that night if OJ had been convicted?
> And conversely, how much destruction of churches and businesses will there be tonight because of the Dobbs decision?
I see your point. On the other hand, how many people were murdered by someone who thought they could get away with it just like OJ? And how many unborn babies will be saved as a result of this ruling?
It’s impossible and inappropriate to put a price on justice. We ought to do what is right, regardless of the social consequences. If crimes are committed against the pro-life crowd and churches are burned, this will serve only to lay bare the wickedness of the enemy. “Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.”
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### Author:  [@Hypatia](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Hypatia)
#### Post date: [24 June 2022 21:27 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/15 "2022-06-24T21:27:03Z")
I don’t know. All trials are show trials. All we can do is await the consequences.
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### Author:  [@TrinityWaters](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/TrinityWaters)
#### Post date: [25 June 2022 05:57 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/roe-v-wade-has-been-overturned/1586/16 "2022-06-25T05:57:11Z")
That’s just a tad too much cynicism for me. A lot of trials are dog and pony shows, but not all. How about Rittenhouse?