# The Crazy Years

**URL:** <https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451>\
**Category:** The Happening World\
**Tags:** crazy-years, clown-show\
**Created:** [30 May 2022 12:56 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451 "2022-05-30T12:56:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [26 November 2023 20:50 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3102 "2023-11-26T20:50:38Z")

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See any problems with this?

> “Sheep can be used to mow sports fields; they can be used on golfing greens while you play — they can be part of the appeal. There are so many ways they can be used,” added Lucy Yuan, a staff member at [UC Davis](https://www.ucdavis.edu/curiosity/news/surprising-benefits-of-sheep-mowers).

> **[Unusual lawn-mowing method is gaining popularity once again: ‘This is how...](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/unusual-lawn-mowing-method-gaining-180000969.html)**
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> "There are so many ways they can be used."

> **[Our Team — sheepmowers!](https://www.sheepmowers.org/our-team)**

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**Author:** ![Lewis](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Lewis](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Lewis)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 02:56 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3103 "2023-11-27T02:56:50Z")

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My back of the envelope calculation is that we create 310 billion gallons of fresh water by burning natural gas in the US annually. Am I way off base?

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**Author:** ![Roxie](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/roxie/32/128_2.png) [@Roxie](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Roxie)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 16:25 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3104 "2023-11-27T16:25:27Z")

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Ask any sheep owner, let alone farmer…  
Some of the 'problem feeds grass, recycling it.  
Some comes in on footwear…

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 16:40 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3105 "2023-11-27T16:40:28Z")

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> [@Roxie](#):
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> Some comes in on footwear…

Also, [in large quantities, sheep are liquid](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/eye-stoppers/3887/43).

This means that unless you have competently fenced and regularly inspected grazing land, they will find the smallest gap and leak onto adjacent territory, leading to telephone calls from irritated neighbours and drivers on adjacent roads, which invariably happen in the middle of the night during a howling storm.

Putting them in the average suburban yard is going to end poorly.

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**Author:** ![eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/eggspurt/32/3686_2.png) [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 18:16 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3106 "2023-11-27T18:16:59Z")

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Yes, currently temporary fencing is built as a part of the graze-mowing service.

But with drones and geo-locking collars, one could probably do cheaper.

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**Author:** ![Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/mooselake/32/5958_2.png) [@Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Mooselake)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 19:55 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3107 "2023-11-27T19:55:10Z")

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We were sheep farmers, besides fertilizer and moccasins you can eat them. My kids grew up on lamb burgers, we kept the ones that didn’t sell and got a little too old

We used a lot of step-in electrified netting for controlled grazing. Hmm, drones, use a missile on the ones that want to keep escaping 🙂 . I’d be worried that geo-locking (or distance sensitive, transmitter in the center of a circle) collars wouldn’t work very well. They’d probably take off in a random direction and not be smart enough (there’s a reason they say “demsheep” /ducks/ ) to realize that if they went back the zaps would go away.

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**Author:** ![Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/mooselake/32/5958_2.png) [@Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Mooselake)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 20:07 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3108 "2023-11-27T20:07:52Z")

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You don’t know what fun is until you chase an escaped black weather through unfenced city yards at night. We (oldest daughter “Oh, Daddy’d” me into letting her get some shetlands) picked up some Shetland ewes and the seller threw in a weather (transitioned male) to keep them company. Should have been a clue he was named “Pest”, she opened the crate to feed them and Pest did a rocket from a drone imitation. It took a while to track Pest down and bring him back, in a more affluent part of Madison WI.

Pest continued to find every weakness in the fencing, eventually passing on from old age. Unlike his followers who sometimes met a coyote and left a red spot in the snow

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**Author:** ![eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/eggspurt/32/3686_2.png) [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)\
**Post date:** [27 November 2023 22:54 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3109 "2023-11-27T22:54:57Z")

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I was thinking of a directional collar that can ‘steer’ an animal. If it can work on cockroaches, it can be designed to work on goats and sheep:

[https://news.ncsu.edu/2012/09/wms-cockroach-steering/](https://news.ncsu.edu/2012/09/wms-cockroach-steering/)

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**Author:** ![eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/eggspurt/32/3686_2.png) [@eggspurt](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/eggspurt)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2023 01:00 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3110 "2023-11-28T01:00:58Z")

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> **[Brazen Burglars Are Crashing Vehicles Into Stores ](https://www.wsj.com/us-news/brazen-burglars-are-crashing-vehicles-into-stores-04a3ebcf)**
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> In a tactic called “ram raiding,” burglars drive a stolen vehicle through a storefront and then loot ATMs, guns and other valuables inside.

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**Author:** ![smagor](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/smagor/32/1298_2.png) [@smagor](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/smagor)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2023 01:05 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3111 "2023-11-28T01:05:58Z")

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> Thieves drove a stolen Hyundai Elantra into Osage County Guns in Wright City, Mo., last year.

Strange… All guns stores that I have seen have safety bollards similar to this:

 ![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/c/9/c91f424ed75e7b49553250210c59f9111debe78b.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2023 01:06 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3112 "2023-11-28T01:06:14Z")

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that’s old. happened to a local gun store multiple times 15+ years ago. they then moved 10 miles into the suburbs

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2023 01:08 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3113 "2023-11-28T01:08:44Z")

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Or the gun store moves into a 4 foot below grade location so that when the truck drives through the wall it high centers and plugs the hole it made.

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [28 November 2023 15:49 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3114 "2023-11-28T15:49:05Z")

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According to the 2023 edition of _[Passport Index](https://www.passportindex.org/)_, the top-ranked passport in the world for visa-free (or visa on arrival, etc.) travel is that of the [United Arab Emirates](https://www.passportindex.org/passport/united-arab-emirates/).

[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/f/e/fe6844648a87ba0c80f31a0599be3cb81e3047a5.jpeg)](https://www.passportindex.org/passport/united-arab-emirates/)

Here are the Rank 1 and 2 countries.

[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/1/7/174bb8c3f6c72c96d7062f91caac42d05dd04401.png)](https://www.passportindex.org/byRank.php)

The U.S. is in Rank 5, tied with Slovakia and Australia.

Coming in dead last at Rank 95 and a mobility score of 40 are Syria and Afghanistan, handily beating frequent champion North Korea at Rank 89 and score 52, above Pakistan (Rank 93, score 46).

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 14:21 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3115 "2023-11-29T14:21:28Z")

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[https://www.yahoo.com/news/kia-owner-fed-multiple-thefts-042045044.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/kia-owner-fed-multiple-thefts-042045044.html)

> Recent violent crimes in Tacoma have involved stolen Kias.
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> Tacoma Police reported that on Sunday night around 10 p.m., about five to eight suspects, described as young looking, wearing masks and driving a stolen Kia, held someone up at gunpoint and stole their car.
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> Police pursued the suspects, but investigators say the thieves ditched the stolen cars and took off running into the woods.
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> About a week before this incident, Tacoma Police [reported](https://www.fox13seattle.com/news/kia-boyz-social-media-trend-prompts-armed-carjacking-in-tacoma-threatening-behavior-towards-school) kids driving in a stolen Kia terrorized a Tacoma middle school parking lot by threatening a security guard with a gun.

I have long predicted that there will be lawsuits by victims of crime where stolen Kias were used as getaway cars.

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 14:43 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3116 "2023-11-29T14:43:18Z")

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**[Chaos Manor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Pournelle#Computing_at_Chaos_Manor) Has Fallen**

[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/3/7/37e4f2bb02745cf302955d7ff2aa06862a9523b9.jpeg)](https://twitter.com/MuseZack/status/1729678010930905489)

Larger pictures:

_ **Before** _

![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/f/4/f4512361651b70f6ca73f300a2d07708b739bd4e.jpeg)  
_ **After** _

 ![](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/8/7/87a8a9d45e3aa323444c524f0e7fdfb8b2913b20.jpeg)  
_ **Interior** _

[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/4/2/424ac2d76264ea2af3529840a60d833210766698.jpeg)](https://twitter.com/hradzka/status/1729682239766540671)

“Books? That’s so 20th century.”

[![image](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/uploads/default/original/3X/a/8/a895e935f202cee56111d2924a43886821f8c979.jpeg)](https://twitter.com/MZWMadMike/status/1729765647083602270)

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**Author:** ![Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/mooselake/32/5958_2.png) [@Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Mooselake)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 16:44 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3117 "2023-11-29T16:44:38Z")

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> [@eggspurt](#):
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> I was thinking of a directional collar that can ‘steer’ an animal. If it can work on cockroaches, it can be designed to work on goats and sheep:

I could have used those back then, sheep probably aren’t much smarter than cockroaches. I wonder if it would work on our dogs?

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**Author:** ![Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/mooselake/32/5958_2.png) [@Mooselake](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/Mooselake)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 16:49 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3118 "2023-11-29T16:49:11Z")

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This might be crazy enough to fit here. I just discovered the units calculator can’t handle babylonian units, nor does it support barlycorns. However leagues per fortnight is quite usable for hobby cnc router feed rates

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 17:07 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3119 "2023-11-29T17:07:50Z")

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> [@Mooselake](#):
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> I wonder if it would work on our dogs?

Sheepdogs are trained to respond to [voice commands](https://elkana.info/border-collie-activities/herding-terminology-for-working-sheep-dog-uk.html). All you’d probably need is a receive-only walkie-talkie with a speaker the dog(s) can hear. I wonder if you could do fancier sheep management with addressable radio collars that let you command multiple dogs independently rather than shouting commands all dogs hear.

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**Author:** ![johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/johnwalker/32/17415_2.png) [@johnwalker](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/johnwalker)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 17:14 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3120 "2023-11-29T17:14:44Z")

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> [@Mooselake](#):
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> nor does it support barlycorns.

It does if you spell it correctly:

```plaintext
barleycorn = 0.33333275 inch
barleycorn/blink = 2.4551024 league/fortnight

```

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**Author:** ![CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/user_avatar/scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/ctlaw/32/42_2.png) [@CTLaw](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/u/CTLaw)\
**Post date:** [29 November 2023 17:14 UTC](https://scanalyst.fourmilab.ch/t/the-crazy-years/1451/3121 "2023-11-29T17:14:51Z")

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Sounds like you should just automate the system using GPS receivers on all the collars where the system automatically generates synthetic speech simultaneously commanding the dogs with the appropriate commands based upon their positions.

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