Epstein’s Post-mortem “Victim”

…is a pretty blonde named Pam Bondi.
Nobody cares, now, about the legal wins her DoJ has racked up: nationwide injunctions, transgender minor “care”, online porn access for minors, parental rights in education, dismantling of Carter’s bloated and incompetent Dep’t of Education. These are victories we hardly dared dream of. But: bygones! What has she done for us lately?
The Right is calling for her head. And any other president would be coming out with an arm around her shoulder while she explained that she was resigning to spend more time with her family.
I don’t think Trump will play that. ( If the beleaguered woman does resign, I hope he will place the blame where it belongs. ) He remembers her work on the impeachment “trials”, her impassioned, eloquent and legally irrefutable defense.
She’s Epstein’s last victim—but, sadly, not the last victim of the Right’s fatal attraction to losing.
C’mon! We can DO it, we can throw away the victory of 2024! We’d rather be Right than be president!

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Let’s wait and see.

Undoubtedly there are purist elements on what is jokingly called “the Right”. Yes, there probably are a few people who are singularly focused on getting the Epstein situation exposed, just as there are people who are singularly focused on getting “transgendered” men into women’s bathrooms and sporting events.

At the same time, there are many of us who long ago gave up on the corrupt & worthless “Republican Party”, and voted for President Trump over the opposition of that element of the DC Swamp – because he promised real change: an end to the Swamp’s proxy war in the Ukraine; a roll-back in the Federal bureaucracy; full openness on topics like the JFK assassination and the Epstein situation – where remember a US citizen died in suspicious circumstances while in US custody, which sounds like the USSR on a bad day; serious business!

We are heartened by some of the successes the President has achieved, understanding that those successes had to be achieved over the opposition of much of “the Right” – those worthless DC RINOs. And we are disappointed by some of the shortfalls – such as the failure to extricate the US from the Swamp’s proxy wars or to release the Epstein files.

We cannot pretend those disappointments do not exist, but we can wait & see, to learn if there is a silver lining in those clouds. The message for President Trump is – Don’t disappoint us!

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You’re the Voice of Sweet Reason, @Gavin , but it’s too late. Enough of MAGA has drunk the Kool-Aid, and I mean that in the sense that they’ve willingly poisoned themselves.
All this weepy sentimentality about “young girls’!
Golly, I remember when my kid was in middle school, about 15 years ago. We parents were told, the kids are ALL having sex, “Don’t put your head in the sand” ( as my daughter’s pediatrician actually said to me, in her presence, when she was 10, insisting that she get the painful Gardasil injections.) There was nothing parents could do about it, nor should we. Just tell them “it’s okay! Just be safe!” Get your boy the condoms and your girl the Gardasil. By age 12, your kids have already forgotten more than YOU ever knew about sex. And this was without the ministrations of any “groomers”, that was just life in the USA.
Then the young folk reach the age of consent, and suddenly every boy was a rapist, and every girl an incompetent, incapable of consenting to sex or even knowing whether or not she wanted it.
Funny ol’world…

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Yes, we all have a tendency to become Manichian - all right or all wrong. It’s killing rational politics, however. Examples abound.

Here are several:

  • Derek Chauvin did indeed represented an unpleasant tendency for tough intimidation by law enforcement. At the same time, George Floyd was no angel. Both of these were problems.
  • Islam is practiced as a personal religion by many. That’s their business. It is also practiced by many as a totalitarian, supremacist political system by many. That’s not private, so both are true and that’s a problem.
  • There is a severe chronic lack of transparency and lies by our government. Trump/Bondi want to do the right thing and they largely have done so. Their record in imperfect. Both are true and it is not even close being a hill for the right to die on, considering the decades-long juggernaut we’ve been facing.

The world and politics are highly imperfect. We’re far better off than we have been. Resist the absolutes.
Resist the Manichaean impulse.

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Hyp, I am with you all the way on that! No-one even in the extremist sections has ever alleged that black helicopters swooped down and picked up innocent little girls playing with their dolls in their parent’s backyards and took those little girls off to Epstein’s island to be abused.

The “young girls” knew exactly what they were doing – they had done it many times before, but not for such a rich payment. If a young woman wants to prostitute herself, that is fine with me – her body, her choice.

However, the adults who participated in the acts also knew exactly what they were doing, and apparently they want their participation to be kept quiet. I don’t want those prominent figures to be prosecuted – simply to be named. And given a chance to exonerate themselves if the relationship was entirely above board.

There is a feature of Korean culture which even has its own word – “oppa”: an older non-related male who acts as a mentor and a shoulder to cry on for a young female, in a non-sexual relationship. If any of Epstein’s “clients” want to claim they were “oppas”, all power to them.

Alan Dershowitz sued and cleared his name—but then, HE didn’t have to pay an attorney to do it.

Doesn’t it seem weird, BTW, that we don’t even know whether, or how much, Epstein’s charged his customers, or friends or whatever they were? So we don’t know whether it was exclusively the “wealthy”, elite”, “powerful” as people keep saying.

This entire thing grew out of the hysterical #metoo mania.

It’s going to be difficult for the left to use this in order to defeat JD Vance in 2028. Of course what they’re saying now is that Trump is protecting HIMSELF, which is just effing ludicrous. But in general they’ve been so loath to take a stand about child sex trafficking. But—I said “difficult”, not impossible. I have no doubt at all they’ll wield it successfully. THEY know how to win.

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If I may add to my hasty remarks – the reason why I want the names of Epstein’s “clients” made public is precisely because they do not want their names made public. When something is considered shameful and hidden, then it provides a lever for blackmail over powerful individuals in government & business – and that concerns us all.

Sadly, in our cripplingly over-lawyered society, the focus is on prosecution for infringement of ill-considered seldom-enforced laws. The answer to the Epstein situation is to forget about prosecutions and simply make the information public – thus defusing the potential for that information being used to blackmail important people in ways that could hurt us all.

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Okay, but that’s another thing: this doesn’t seem like prime blackmailing material.
As I said, we don’t even know whether these
Wealthy
Powerful
Elite
Persons yet unnamed DID pay for sex.
What if Epstein just offered them a pleasant place where they could fornicate or commit adultery with some sweet young flesh?
That isn’t illegal on the part of then”clients”. And fuggod’s sake it isn’t shocking, either, in our society.

I’ll bet good ol’Bill Clinton didn’t pay! Wha, I’ll bet all he had to do was pose for that picture of himself in a satiny off-shoulder dress, y’know, just as a return favor to his generous host.

Oh I don’t know why I can’t leave this alone. It’s just, I had such high hopes..I thought we might get 12 years outta this if things continued to go as well as they had been.

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Trump made the case well.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114842356238631061

But some deep state shenanigans are afoot in the Justice Department that won’t stand the light of day and that’s where I think the real culprit is. Under no circumstances should she have been led to pull the stunt that she did with the influencers holding up the Epstein files. That wreaks of conmen in the Justice department attempting to take down the Trump administration.

Bondi can’t very well admit that she was conned. Her job as AG is to suss out conmen!

As I’ve said before Trump is all that standing between us and a rhyme with a 30 years war.

In my own very limited influential way I’ve tried to do two things with regard to this crisis and it is a crisis:

Pace the Epstein hysteria with my own discussion of Donald Trump possibly being involved with surveillance via his hotel chains which is mirrored by the Patel clan. But then lead them by warning that the loss of the midterms could be the trigger event for the rhyme with a 30 years war.

And as a backstop to that, promoting militia money years in advance in preparation for civil chaos.

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If it is not illegal and not shocking, and therefore has no blackmail potential – then make it public! The fact that the Powers That Be don’t want the identities of Epstein’s people made public is proof positive that this does have blackmail potential.

Simple answer for the Trump Squad. Announce that they will not prosecute anyone whose names are in the Epstein files, because what they did is not shocking and not illegal. In fact, they will fire up Biden’s autopen and give them all Biden-style pre-emptive pardons if they ask for them. But they will release effectively all of Epstein’s unredacted files to the public, for the citizens and the media to peruse at their leisure. The only exception would be not releasing any third-party child porn which Epstein downloaded from the internet for his own amusement.

If Bill Clinton wants to respond to the public release by acknowledging that, yes, he did have sex with that woman but he did not tell her to put ice on her bitten lip – so be it.

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People have no idea how dangerous this really is.

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Bondi should appoint a special counsel, one of the 93 US Attorneys confirmed by the Senate unlike Jack Smith to investigate Epstein’s ‘business and clients’.

There is no attorney client privilege once the client is deceased?

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HPV vaccination is actually one of the great public health successes of the past years: HPV vaccine stops 90% of cervical cancer cases

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Color me skeptical. I read that 90% of sexually active adults carry the HPV virus. But, 90% of sexually active adults do not get cervical or throat cancer. Most people are totally unaware they carry it, even when it becomes detectable, like in a routine Pap smear, and usually the episode clears up on up its own.
So how can “they”possibly know the vax prevents 90% of cervical cancers?

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It takes many years of research and study to recognize a solid medical study. It takes a similar and longer amount of time to recognize a solid researcher/expert. They’ve done this work, within my network this is recognized as a solid result. Trying to reduce this time and the tons of information into a succinct self-contained argument is something that only a disinformer would do.

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I don’t aspire to be a “disinformer”. But I have seen various paradigms of medical doctrine rise, reign, and fall during my lifetime, is all.

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You never have been, I’m a fan of your rigor. But in the context of medical research, it’s a topic I know pretty well, and I’m merely stating that these things are irreducibly complex. I think Western society is overemphasizing the reliance on medical treatment, and there have been researchers that argued against it, for example W D Hamilton, who wrote this wish for his burial:

I will leave a sum in my last will for my body to be carried to Brazil and to these forests. It will be laid out in a manner secure against the possums and the vultures just as we make our chickens secure; and this great Coprophanaeus beetle will bury me. They will enter, will bury, will live on my flesh; and in the shape of their children and mine, I will escape death. No worm for me nor sordid fly, I will buzz in the dusk like a huge bumble bee. I will be many, buzz even as a swarm of motorbikes, be borne, body by flying body out into the Brazilian wilderness beneath the stars, lofted under those beautiful and un-fused elytra which we will all hold over our backs. So finally I too will shine like a violet ground beetle under a stone.

Hamilton’s cautioning about vaccine development practices was suppressed, ironically, given the most likely reason for the emergence of COVID-19: W D Hamilton's rejected submission to Science, 1994

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Eeekh, that reminded me of my horror when I read a few years ago that worms could develop a “memory” generated by other worms , whom they had consumed. That is, the first worms learned a task (can’t imagine what) then other worms ate the student worms, and lo! The diners knew how to do it, too!
Ei yii yii! You mean my fragmented memories could be slithering around in a million creepy crawlies who’ve partaken of my ample flesh when I’m dead??
John Walker to the rescue (as usual); he advised that that particular study had been discredited.

I admire Mr.Hamilton although I’m shivering with involuntary revulsion at the thought of the coprophageous beetles. Too bad honeybees aren’t carnivorous! To be consumed by them would be a sweet afterlife, one’s memories gently informing the hive mind…..

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