I’ve never known anyone this shallow.

The other day, I was involved in a discussion that touched on the motivations of public figures, specifically Mr Musk. The idea was put forward that Mr Musk is principally motivated by his financial interests in supporting a particular technology. However, this notion is not confined to a particular individual or cause; rather, it is generalized by many to the actions of wealthy individuals such as Messrs Trump, Gates, Soros, and the Koch brothers. This motivation is most often put forward by those on the Left (only about their opponents, of course) but is also used by those across the political spectrum. This train of reasoning ultimately springs from Marxism, about which more below.

While it is not possible to know the inner thoughts of any of these individuals, one can look for evidence elsewhere: behavior both specific to the particular person (Musk) and the wealthy in general. When someone’s net worth substantially exceeds what he could usefully spend on himself or those close, it’s hard to see how the acquisition of more wealth would be of much use. This is especially clear when the value in question exceeds the astronomical number of 10^11 dollars or, as Feynman quipped, an economical number. The observed behavior* of the wealthy, from Carnegie to Soros, has been to give their money away; they are animated by ideas or values rather than narrow personal interests, regardless of whether you agree with them or not.

In Mr Musk’s case, he has clearly made sacrifices of his narrow financial interests in favor of a value: the purchase of Twitter and his leadership of DOGE, both of which were foreseeably adverse to his net worth. A similar case could be made for Mr Trump. Both of these individuals could easily have quietly enjoyed their wealth instead of choosing to enter the arena once again.

This literally cartoonish version of human motivation is traceable to materialism† and to the financialization of everything, as if money were the only thing worth living for or worth dying for. Millennia of human history say otherwise. Few, if any, laid down their lives for a few dollars more, Clint Eastwood films excepted. The signers of the Declaration of Independence pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor for something other than increasing their wealth.

Materialism has reached its apotheosis in Homo economicus: the characterization of man as economic unit, an automaton strictly animated by the material. This is why GDP per capita has been elevated as the ultimate measure of human flourishing. It is used to justify a multitude of sins, from unlimited immigration to the hollowing-out of communities. As long as the GDP continues to rise, it’s a win, right? Many (most) libertarians, plain-vanilla Republicans, and leftists are equally enthusiastic about this program, albeit for somewhat different reasons.

No one I know is as shallow as the materialists suppose. That has been my experience; YMMV.

*revealed preferences to appease the economists
†both in the common usage and in the philosophical sense

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Here in Appalachia where I live, we speculate that there is only about..$500 in cash circulating around on the Plateau. Anybody who gets money, even if they desperately need it, seems to be anxious to lend it out to somebody else, even though they’ve gotta know they probably won’t get it back.
Why this impulse? It’s easy to understand among the extremely wealthy.
Altruism, as you describe. Whence?

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I take your point that this lack of selfishness is not confined to the wealthy. It’s just that the original context was Mr Musk who kinda known for being loaded. The case is easiest to make with a person like that.

Whence altruism for everyone else? The answer is found in the same place: people place a higher value on things other than money.

My broader complaint (aside from the silliness of the thesis that motivated this post) is the attempt to erase or devalue these other things. And it’s not entirely clear that countries with higher per capita GDP or other wealth measures are happier (however defined) than those lower down. Of course, there is a positive correlation, yet with plenty of variation around the trendline. Looking back to earlier eras, it is plausible that people were better off in non-material ways than today. The collapse in fertility, especially among the wealthier nations, is a sign that all is not well in the current era. Japan’s population has been declining since c. 2010. European states are soon to follow, in spite of their dysfunctional immigration policies.

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As if on cue, the execrable midwit David Frum published a piece in the even more execrable The Atlantic in which he foolishly argues the foolish case for Trump’s cupidity. To save the reader from dirtying the browsing history with the magazine’s web page, the article is archived here:
https://archive.is/RgSeP

A couple of choice excerpts:

He is taking self-enrichment to a scale never seen before in America. [subtitle]

Nothing like this has been attempted or even imagined in the history of the American presidency. … There is no analogy with any previous action by any past president. The brazenness of the self-enrichment resembles nothing seen in any earlier White House. This is American corruption on the scale of a post-Soviet republic or a postcolonial African dictatorship.

David Frum, former Dubya Bush speechwriter and neocon, was (is?) part of the Republican establishment. With friends like these…

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Please! Traditionally, he is “the egregious Frum”, as established by Dr. Jerry Pournelle.

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I think criticism of Trump’s self enrichment is justified. The $Trump meme coin is a scam just like every other meme coin. Trump holding of this shit coin is currently valued at 8 to 12 billion.

Edit I don’t know if we know how much Trump owns because the ownership is through various entities. I don’t think the exact amount matters. Meme coins are pretty much universally understood to be scams.

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Absolutely. It’s no different than Joe Biden’s various grifts. Or in some sense, it’s worse…preying on his less sophisticated MAGA supporters. The whole political establishment can go straight to hell. Don’t know why I get so upset…I’ve tapped-out of America (and the West) long ago. I guess I just hate seeing good meaning, decent people get taken by con artists over and over again.

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Sadly, choice of political leaders (to the extent we really have any) has long been a matter of the lesser of evils. Alas, on that scale - the scale of evil - the demon-crats are clearly superior. Most repugnant, IMHO has been their eternal ‘divide and conquor’ effort. It is destructive of every human impulse and/or instinct essential for a decent, functional society. Using division to acquire political power - remember the Nazi effectiveness scapegoating Jews? - is prima fascia evil and experience clearly shows what ensues. Yet, these, our betters as they endlessly insist, keep right on going - now aiming at this most time-honored group to hate. Nonetheless the “haters” can only be found on the “far right” (is there any other kind, besides “far”?). This must be true, since the NYT and NPR say so.

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Biden and Trump are on totally divert planes of wealth. Joe Biden didn’t have any money before entering politics and has never had a job in the dreaded private sector. His money came exclusively from political graft, and at a fairly modest level at that. Trump had vastly more wealth before entering politics and his net worth has likely suffered since embarking of a political career.

In short, politics made Biden modestly wealthy; Trump was very wealthy before his first term. From estimates I can find online, Trump’s net worth is two orders of magnitude more than Biden’s: ~100X. Whatever he may or may not have made from that shit-coin is negligible for Trump, though it could mean a lot for someone like Biden or most of official Washington. Orders of magnitude matter.

Trump has all the money he needs. If anything he’s more driven by vanity and self-aggrandizement. In that, he’s not terribly different from any prominent politician, though Trump is probably farther along that axis. While the vanity and greed axes are not orthogonal, they’re not identical.

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The total market cap of that shit coin never exceeded $9B and is about $2B now. Given that Trump is not the only holder, he couldn’t possibly be holding $8 to $12B.

Best to get your facts straight before opining, doncha think?

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/official-trump

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The Biden crime family was engaged in massive traditional bribery and extortion along with various abuses of power and criminal conspiracy with law-enforcement to cover it up.

Trump is generally a low level hustler licensing his name to make a few bucks.

I am suspicious of a couple of the Trump pardons or potential pardons, but doubt they were pure quid pro quo. The Trevor Milton pardon was totally undeserved. Nikola Motors was a BYU alumni group telling Theranos to “hold my non-alcoholic brew”. I will assume that one or more connected members of the club got Trump’s ear and told him lies.

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You do realize the market cap is the coins in circulation. The 80 or so percent Trump holds are not included. The difference between total supply and that in circulation.

Of course Hawk Tuah may not be able to dump all 800 million at 11 bucks.

This doesn’t include transaction fees. I think Hawk Tuah makes money on these fees and they are in the millions.

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You are correct in describing the general difference, but either you have Elon money or that is the understatement of the year. We are talking likely billions. $Trump, $Melania, $WLFI and USD1 progress from total scam to likely scam.

This does not include things like the various crypto pumps that benefit his family’s ownership of legitimate crypto or how much his family and friends benefited from his market moving announcements in regular old stocks. It is hard to know if these are pumps for the benefit of the family because it would take an investigation into what and when the family was buying.

The last one we can call Pelosi on steroids versus Hawk Tuah money.

We have no idea whether Trump is enriching his family in a Joe Biden way. Maybe Trump thinks it is ok to rip off people if it is just a scheme and it isn’t ok to take a little money from xyz entity for some help by the POTUS. I doubt it.

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Everyone supposedly has a price. The thing is that if the scam only nets a trivial amount what we have is a person that would embarrass themselves and their family for chicken feed. The guy at the bar that is willing to pull his pants down for a beer.

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And interestingly, most of the signers of the DOI did, in fact lose their wealth, and even their lives. I have known many men and women of lower middle class serving in the Services. They have, as you note, uniformly been dedicated to serve the nation. Soldiers don’t get paid any big bucks, regardless of rank. Yet none have been unhappy with their service or their position in life.

So the observation you make is incredibly important. People are motivated by far more than simply money. Mellon donated his whole painting collection -and built the building out of even then expensive marble as a gift to the American people, much to the chagrin of FDR. who pretty much hated Mellon. It was valued back then, in the early ‘30’s, at over $108 Million.

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The fact that Trump involved himself with a meme (shit) coin—whether he personally benefitted from it or not—was fundamentally wrong, unethical, exploitative, and, quite frankly, unbecoming of a president—especially one that claims to champion the interests of the American people. No amount of sugar coating or “Biden was worse” hand-waving can change that.

For additional context, here’s a great video that explains what happened with the $LIBRA and $MELANIA meme coins:

If watching the full hour and 11 minutes isn’t your jam, here’s the TL;DR (about 3 minutes):

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FDR harassed Mellon with lawsuits and tax audits

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Fair point. However, it’s doubtful that, if Trump or his surrogates ever tried to turn their holdings into real money, they would realize much less than even its current valuation. If, indeed, 80% are off the market, dumping 4X times more into the market would make it crash.

More to the point, this is silly coin is more about feeding Trump’s narcissism than it is about making him any money. He loves to put his name on stuff and to remind us constantly how wonderful and special he is. No question that was a stupid thing to do and it looks awful. The behavior is very much on-brand for Trump: no surprises here.

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I used the term Homo economicus in this post. It turns out there is a blog with this name — a bit of a double entendre in this case — on Substack authored by a grad student in economics. If you want to see into the dark soul of someone who has taken the materialistic view to the extreme, take a gander at this post. This person has no understanding of human nature. The post opens with:

I wish to have kids, but I do not want them to be mine. That does not mean that I will adopt. Instead, I will find someone who I consider better than me in relevant ways, and have them provide the genetic material. I think that it would be immoral not to, and that it is impossible not to think this way after thinking seriously about it.

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Huh. ?Can eugenics be far behind in this mind.

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