If Trump dies from his wound…..

…if he dies, there goes the last hope for our country.

“Bloody but unbowed”……are you SEEING this?

Get out your guns. This is war.

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If the instant reports are correct (probably not), two attendees at the rally were shot dead (behind Trump? missed shots?), and the shooter who was on a roof top with a clear view of the stand was also shot dead (by whom?). It does sound like a serious assassination attempt.

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Biden speaking:” There’s no place in America for this kind of violence”. “Unheard of”.
Oh really? You couldn’t prove it by me: This is the sixth such assassination or attempt just in my lifetime! JFK, RFK, MLK, Reagan, the Congressional Baseball shooting….

Oh, remember how back in R> those bozos bleated “Don’t blame the Left!” After the baseball shooting? Oh,right: we didn’t, we let the Left paint US as the violent ones.
The Left are violent treasonous murderers. But of course the shooter is dead now, they can make up anything they want to about him. Will he be “just a crazy loner” like Hodgkinson? Or will they pretend it was a white supremacist for whom Trump wasn’t white enough?
BLAME THE LEFT???

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What? It was a headshot! You can’t get more “serious”.

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We’re going to have to get more analysis data. But at first glance this is perfect conspiracy theory fodder. Not saying that this isn’t (or is) a conspiracy, but a thousand incorrect flowers are going to bloom, hiding the correct one.

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Absolutely! The intent was to kill. What I was trying to convey with “serious” attempt is that this was clearly not a random guy picking up a gun on the spur of the moment and firing wild shots.

This was clearly carefully planned, with high quality equipment, well trained shooter, prior close study of the layout, lots of practice, and – maybe – some inside help in the form of the security detail failing to take such an obvious precaution as putting a person on the roof of each of the few buildings in the immediate area. From the pictures after the shooting, there were lots of police, military, Secret Service personnel – more than enough to spare a few bodies for the surrounding high spots.

Yes, a serious well-planned assassination attempt. Planned by whom? Cui bono?

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I don’t want to hear one more time that the Secret Service are ‘heroes”! They totally fucked up tonight, or this wouldnta happened in the first place. Or maybe they were in on it.

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Assuming the claims that the teleprompter deflected the bullet are correct, that suggests professionals were not involved up front. A pro would know that glass would deflect the bullet unpredictably and probably would have used the standard solution of a second near simultaneous shooter to clear the glass.

If we find evidence to suggest a second shooter was planned, that will change things.

Edit: can you give the Medal of Freedom to a teleprompter? :wink:

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(1) Andrew — e/acc on X: “*BREAKING: Distance of shooter calculation: - 217ms sound delay between bullet zip sound and gun discharge -1150 feet/sec avg speed of sound Distance of shooter = 0.0472 miles, or 249.2 Feet away https://t.co/FkNIk5pWwc” / X

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Yep it was a “head shop” fer sure, but more analysis is needed. Like what wind was there if any.
he had turned his head to the right so the shooter was from the left of the stage to hit his right ear.

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I don’t get it. Are they calculating the distance of the shooter from the two sounds (I assume captured by the podium mic)? If so, wouldn’t you have to know the speed of sound AND the speed of the bullet? How could we know the speed of the bullet (which would not be constant)?

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People have noticed what looks like a possible bullet hole on Trump’s suit

Later edit - it’s a crease in the Secret Service agent’s jacket that is a slightly darker blue shade.

(1) johnny maga on X: “It’s become clear that the shots came from a rooftop outside the rally. The body being carried away from the scene was unfortunately a victim Eyewitness says he watched the shooter climb on the roof, alerted USSS to no avail New angle shows Trump was possibly hit in his vest https://t.co/lNIngi80cA” / X

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No, if you look carefully, each bullet sound wave has two peaks. The time distance between the peaks is about 200 ms, given sound speed you can estimate distance traveled.

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I still don’t get it. What causes the two peaks for each bullet? I thought that the first peak was the whizzing sound of the bullet and the second peak was the muzzle blast?

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The first peak is the sound of the bullet going “pew” by the nearby microphone.

The second peak is the sound of the gun going “bang” picked up by the same microphone.

Similar to how you can estimate how far away did lightning just strike.

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But the speed of light is much faster than a bullet (and can practically be considered infinite when determining how far you are away from a lightning strike…meaning, you don’t have to consider it). For example, if the bullet travelled at the speed of sound, the whiz of the bullet and the muzzle blast would reach the mic at the same time…there wouldn’t be two peaks…there would only be one. This means that the relative speed between the bullet and the speed of sound in air determines the amount of time between the two peaks. In this case, the bullet was going faster than the speed of sound and you would need to know how much faster (and that speed is not constant over the trajectory of the bullet) in order to do a distance calculation.

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I decided to go out and see what the local bar was up to. Empty except for 3 other people. Everyone had gone to another town for some sort of anniversary of a bar there with band and fireworks etc.

But one guy there – probably one of the large land owners around here who likes Biden because he gives them lots of Cartel boots on the ground doing cheap labor – was talking about how the shooter must not have known what he was doing if he was using an AK47 from that distance.

This is what these farmers are going to have defending them once the forward deployed Cartel soldiers have all been killed:

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Further observation; in some scenes the flags on the left of the stage do show that there was a bit, admittedly slight, of wind from the front to the back of the stage.
This also could attribute the ear being hit instead of the head proper.
remember if the distance to that two story building is about 250 feet, ( 76.2 meters), a slight wind could have moved the round a few inches off the target.

( Thank God for that.)

The rapidity of the shots also indicates the shooter was not a sniper as rapid shots and lack of observation of windage is not a thing a “sniper” would do.

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