True. It appears Ukraine is losing the war, despite all its efforts, including the invasion of Beloruss. THAT was a risky gambit; it may give Zelensky a pawn with which to negotiate. Russia has also a careful line to walk.
The CIA, OTOH, has apparently lost this fight. No rational president would commit nuclear weapons for the defense of Ukraine. That has already become a lost cause for the USA. Trying to push that scenario will only lead to more hate and discontent. The Dems are already behind in any real poll, and such a move would only decrease any support they may have with marginal groups. If the CIA wants to try to pull their fat out of the fire, they will have to use some other tactic to. accomplish it. I could see a coup replacing Zelensky a la the one they concockted to replace Diem way back. But replacing Zelensky would give them, then, the ability to ânegotiateâ with Putin.
Letâs not forget Putin is not in any great shape. He has orchestrated an unpopular war that has left a fair number of Russian dead. Russians care about their families too. Some adequate result would at least bolster Putinâs position with the people. Regardless of how you feel about him, he IS sensitive on this subject.
So we have only our own pet idiots to worry about. They might be inclined to use nukes, but the situation does not really allow for us to do that. I believe that so long as we speak of them in the abstract, they are OK, feeling âsafeâ. When they get exposed the situation changes - a lot. Their biggest strength is in anonymity.
We are in total agreement. But we are thinking rationally, and â whatever motivates Our Betters â rationality certainly is not it.
If the DC Swamp Creatures were thinking rationally, they would look at their largely de-industrialized, deeply-indebted state with its wide-open southern border and largely ill-educated population and say â we have problems to fix at home! The last thing we can afford to do is to run up even more debt to pay for killing Ukrainians & Russians on the other side of the world. Yet Our Betters do the opposite of what would clearly be rational.
Given the Swamp Creatures departure from reason & self-interest, it may be optimistic for us that they will do the smart thing when their foreign proxy war goes pear-shaped. Not that there is anything we could do to stop them making a civilization-ending mistake.
OK, letâs talk nukes and avoid any fear of âcivilisation ending scenariosâ ⌠which of course do exist but who cares as we will all die.
So letâs get real.
The not MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction) scenario which will include nukes up to maybe 200 kt TNT or even larger as there is no definition of a tactical nuke.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki was around 20 kt TNTâŚ
So these tactical nukes will make a loud noise.
There are two scenarios:
Russia starts
USA starts
The problem for USA or rightly the CIA is that they do not have many targets that make sense OUTSIDE of Russia !!!
However Russia has plenty of targets OUTSIDE of USA that will make a lot of sense.
USA has more than 800 bases and much more depots of equipment.
So the CIA (called it USA or NATO if you wish) is caught on the back foot when we speak about nukes.
So in reality CIA will not use nukes - maybe they will try to sell us the idea that Ukraine will do it - but this is also totally unrealistic.
So the most possible or feasible scenario is that Russia will destroy some military infrastructure within Ukraine ⌠but why as they are winning the conventional war.
The CIA will try to pressure Russia with huge military build up in e.g. Lithuania or Finland or Romania ⌠which they are doing at the moment to try to provoke Russia âŚ
Because CIA (called it NATO or USA) has no targets for retaliation !!!
Of course this will not be nice for the NATO troops that will get annihilated in a base close to Russia and the âpressâ will paint Putin as an evil dictator etc etc etc.
Let wait and see âŚ
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Self-interest is a funny thing. One lesson from liberty is that one personâs concept of self-interest can be very different than anotherâs. That said, I would submit the Ruling Elite class has herd-like sense of self-interest. For us it isnât ârational â because they have no allegiance to any nation; like the communists before they only acknowledge themselves as important.
So trashing a nation to achieve some goal makes perfect sense to them. They can and do live wherever they wish, and their wealth shields them from any consequences. So eg. they trashed Yugoslavia to get a military base and access to cheap raw materials. And it didnât cost them anything because America did it on its own dime. If youâre a globalist, whatâs not to like.
Here you have Martin Armstrong answer to the Kursk invasion and about tactical nukes ⌠See my view on this here.
As I explain ⌠this invasion into Russia is so brain dead that it can only be the CIA who has plotted this âŚ
Russia should drop a tactical nuke on the Ukrainian army that has invaded the Kursk region.
This is totally safe from any international critic.
Russia explodes a nuke on its own territory !!!
With all due respect to Mr. Armstrong, there is a valid view that Zelenskyâs invasion of Russia was an entirely rational act ⌠from his perspective.
Reality is that Zelensky is losing the war he triggered (presumably with the encouragement of CIA, London, segments of the US, NATO). The Ukraine is now totally dependent on external support from US/EU/NATO for weapons, ammunition, pay for its bureaucrats, and pensions for its dependents. And Zelensky is aware that the people of the West (if not their ruling cliques) are losing enthusiasm for supporting a âdemocracyâ which cancels elections, jails opponents, and shuts down churches. Without continuing Western support, the Ukraine will collapse in short order.
What is Zelensky to do ⌠short of stopping his war and starting negotiations? The only real prospect Zelensky has for military success is to bring US/NATO into the conflict as open active belligerents â which sounds rather too much like World War III.
The rational aim of Zelenskyâs invasion was to trigger a response from Russia which could have been sold by a willing media to reluctant Western publics as an unwarranted major Russian expansion of the conflict â such as attacks on military supply bases in NATO countries. The hope was that Russia would rise to the bait and over-react.
So far, the world has been saved by President Putinâs refusal to respond as Zelensky hoped. So far!
Just to put some quantification to the issue, a small nuclear explosion would cause severe damage in an area of about 1 square kilometer â or less if the topography provides some protection. Zelensky claims to have overrun thousands of square kilometers of Russian territory, with more added every day.
Setting aside Far Leftie fear-mongering, a tactical nuclear weapon is simply a big bang. Its only real use would be against a tight concentration of enemy forces or against static limited-area facilities, such as ports, air bases, military depots ⌠or government buildings.
I think Yugoslaviaâs problem is that itâs dwelling on history instead of thinking about the future.
The Soviet Union had Mikhail Gorbachev, Czechoslovakia had VĂĄclav Havel, and Yugoslavia had Slobodan MiloĹĄeviÄ. The national pride of these nations was great, rooted in an unjust present and a grand history. All the wrongs that have occurred have either happened to the Serbs or the Russians; everyone has lost something, but no, only Serbia lost Kosovo. The British Empire was very powerful, and now only the United Kingdom remains. The Austro-Hungarian Empire was great, but now itâs just Austria. However, all the wrongs happened only to the Serbs and Russians.
Nations that are too burdened by the past lose their future.
OK. Letâs say the Serbs do a lot of âcrying in their milkâ. But neither Russia nor Czechoslovakia got bombed by the US for 78 days in an undeclared war against a sovereign state, and one that was a member of the UN. I wouldnât argue that todayâs Serbs wouldnât be shield-bearers to the Serbs who fought at Kosovo, but they did, in fact have a functioning nation - until the CIA and Germany/Austria bankers got involved. THEN suddenly there was a âcivil warâ. And kindly remember Milosevic was our guy until, like Diem half way around the world, he no longer âfitâ the plans for the Balkanized states we introduced. Macedonia was never interested in being a solo state. Kosovo was solid Serb - until the OpFor forces started allowing Shiptar gangs to abduct young Serb men, who for the most part were never heard from again. THAT happened all over Kosovo, with the full knowledge - and complicit acceptance of the âoccupying troopsâ. The Serb Army came, and all the shiptars ran afraid back to Albania, from whence they came. Then the US âcoalitionâ drove the Serb Army out - and guess what! the shiptars came back - now fully rearmed! Wonder where those arms came from.
Serbian history is coloured with lots of âinteresting eventsâ. The very creation of Yugoslavia was a move by the Croats to avoid paying war reparations. Preko was captured by the Croatian army with significant aid from American âadvisorsâ. This was land deeded over 400 years ago to the Serbs, who were called âgranichariâ or border guards, by Austro-Hungary, for them to be a buffer between the Austro-Hungarian Empire and the Ottoman one. Kosovo was basically given to the Albanians who in reality had no claim to the territory. The is and always was Serb land. But if it stayed Serb land, we couldnât build the ginormous military base there, and insure the robbery of the mining assets of the region by the globalists.
So you can point out similarities between the Serbs and the Russians and Czechs (all of whom speak a basically identical root language BTW), but the situations were NOT THE SAME. Yes, Serbs have significant blame - and a big item of that was trust in works over propaganda. And letâs not forget that both Milosevic AND Tujman plundered their respective ânationsâ of hundreds of millions of dollars - ALL with the complicit aid of the Austrian bankers, with a hand from the German ones.
Life is never as simple as it sounds. Or as the liars (CIA) say.
âGenocideâ - that is like the old Dem accusation that the mere lack of evidence is proof it is true! ?Where was the genocide - mostly in the Serb area, by mostly the muslims, who created lots of fake activities. Take the âbombing of the market in Sarajevoâ. Crater analysis by the Brits showed in couldnât have come from the Serbs. Yet that trope remains. Other similar ones persist. The â7,000 gravesâ is another that no one has ever found.
So letâs not talk about a political construct used to justify actions we have no real justifications for.
That really is the central issue: How were the Swamp Creatures able to wage war against another âdemocracyâ (I know! I know!) without a formal Declaration of War by the denizens of the US Congress â those doughty individuals who step forward and take on the responsibility of representing the citizens of these United States?
MAN, your âevidenceâ is really scarce. This is the same kind of Far Left BS pulled in the George Floyd âmurderâ - which wasnâ't a murder at all. ONE body found by some pool. And bodies found in 576 (or whatever the number was) different places. But they were all âgenocide victimsâ of those nasty Serbs. ?So if they were such hardcore fighters, how come they lost.
And setting this aside, ?how come WE were âinvolvedâ in this mess. ?What was OUR national interest. I donât recall ANY DEBATE in Congress on whether or not to go to war, nor any declaration of war against Yugoslavia. This all has the same smell that Ukraine is giving off about now. And Vietnam did. The Tutti & Hutti committed real genocide - and no one blinked! No US troops, no bombing the capital for almost 3 months.
I know enough folks in the region who know this first-hand, not to have to rely on MSM. Some things have been pretty well established by now.
Iâve personally listed evidence that Floyd had a bunch of issues that make the âmurderâ evaluation highly contestable The Crazy Years - #3089 by eggspurt
As for the national interest, thatâs a whole different topic - but the EU-US alliance is quite favorable for the US as well, so I doubt itâs purely humanitarian interests in this matter. I doubt Russia had humanitarian interests there either. There was an opportunity to make Russia an ally in the 90s and instead, the US squandered the opportunity by stepping on it while it was lying down in the mud - something that Russia hasnât forgiven.
Sorry. I donât buy that. Some things have been pretty well established and thatâs that muslims have lied about any number of things. Heck, even the Catholic Church is on record as responding to the allegation that some 780,000 people were killed at Jasenovatc with the unbelievable response, âIt wasnât THAT many - only maybe 350,000!â
You donât have to go all the way over there to talk to people who were there in the fight; my church is filled with refugees from Bosna and Kosovo. They have first hand knowledge too, and it doesnât correlate with the âofficialâ news. But it does correspond with what we know is going on today.
The âLast Balkan Warâ was clearly instigated by outside interference. Relations between the Orthodox and muslims have always been a bit shaky. In WWII Bosna provided 3 battalions of troops to Hitler to fight the Russians. NOT exactly our âalliesâ. The Ustahe were clearly on Nazi Germanyâs side too. So the expected friction points remained and only needed someone to excite. JUST WHEN events were calming down and memories of atrocities from WWII were fading as a new generation took over, someone roused them up again. I personally have little doubt it was the CIA and backers of their policies (so Germany & Austria) that stirred the pot and got this merry band off to fighting, with Ustashi demanding âCroatianâ land back, and Serbs saying, âNot this time.â Killed whatever reconciliation there had been these last 50 years.
Now we have the Chinese mining seriously expensive ore from mines in Bosna, not paying anything to any BALKAN nation, and we have Camp Bondsteel, the largest military base in the Balkans, there to guard the pipeline out of Makedonia. ?Who ordered all this mayhem and who paid for it, and who is continuing to support the shiptar incursions in Kosovo and Metohija. There the Serbs who have lived there forever are being bullied by the shiptars into leaving the area so the muslims from Albania can move in. ALL with the acquiescence of NATOâs âPeace Keeping forcesâ.