Ukraine and Russia: War and Consequences

Is the chart you posted age-adjusted?

Couldn’t this be related:

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Heavy destruction even of the hardened storage bunkers.

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Here is an interesting, albeit hopeful, speculation from the Ukraine’s former Prosecutor General Yuri Lutsenko:

  • Zelensky will present a “victory plan” list of demands (functionally that NATO openly joins the proxy war as a belligerent) to lame duck Biden & sidekick Kamala, hoping that they will reject it.

  • Zelensky would then be able to go to the Ukrainian people and claim that they have been abandoned by their NATO friends. Now standing alone, Ukraine’s only choice is to request Russia for a ceasefire and negotiate a settlement.

As an observation, presenting outrageous demands to Biden seems like a no-lose approach for Zelensky. Either Biden agrees, and the Ukraine gets the relief of US/NATO taking over the war with Russia – or Biden rejects and Zelensky has a good excuse for requesting negotiations. The big risk is what Russia might demand as a precursor to a ceasefire.

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NATO is the aggressor … I think that this is slowly clear to all … if we remember the largest industrial sabotage ever in the history of the world … Nord Stream pipeline.

Russia has enlarged it military to become as big as the US military.

If NATO does not seek a peaceful resolution of the Ukraine war and stop poking the bear then I believe that the Baltic nations plus Finland are at risk…

I am sure that if NATO aggression continues then Russia will shorten the front line to NATO !!!

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More destroyed ammo dumps:

Warning: Annoying host.

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Images show Russia’s new Sarmat missile suffered major test failure, researchers say

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The second photo likely is after weeks of demolition.

The two buildings are mostly intact. Thus it was not the explosion that removed all the pavement, including pavement on the far side of the buildings past the explosion.

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Yes, the image of the site is vaguely reminiscent of the scene at SpaceX after the first launch of Starship created sub-orbital flying lumps of concrete.

In a world of official disinformation and easy image manipulation, it is really difficult to know what to believe. Is most of what we are told simply reruns of the “Ghost of Kiev”?

The worst part is that bad “information” leads to bad decisions. Ha! Russia’s Sarmat rocket is a bust, no need to worry about retaliation. Oops! Where did London go?

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something will break …
all this spin will soon come apart …

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It looks like EU are on their own concerning war with Russia.

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Who knows what is the truth is about this? We peans will only know anything after the fact. If Ukraine hits more (they’ve already hit a few, but we don’t know which weapons were used) long distance, sensitive targets, we will then be able to surmise some truth. As Putin made clear, targeting such weapons is beyond Ukraine’s military, as they lack 1. the requisite satellite surveillance and 2. highly arcane and secret skills needed to program the target’s coordinates.

In other words, if Ukraine succeeds, we will know that not only was permission given, but also the direct input of NATO nations. Let us hope our “leaders” will heed this warning. Surely, our “leaders” must know that NATO’s direct actions of this kind represent the same kind of existential threat which motivates NATO’s own strategic decisions.

The parallels to the “Cuban/(Turkish, as seen from Moscow) missile crisis” should be obvious, even to progressives. NATO membership (and hence automatic installation of NATO missiles with 5 minute flight time to Moscow) for Ukraine is a hill Russia is, understandably, willing to die on. Every nation has such strategic interests. We surely do. E.g., remember the Monroe Doctrine?

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More images:

And yes yes, this is from pro-Ukrainian sources. Sharing isn’t endorsement. I think it’s valuable to have a civilized truth-finding conversation with folks who think differently, but are still on the same side of history.

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Agreed. But Broe really is an annoying prick who elevates his TDS over his informative content.

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Ukraine was/is the opening act for the final act in the “great war”.
Now the Israel debacle follows.
This is a spiritual war that started in 1914 and it is not over yet.
A line is being drawn and we shall see which side wins.
Russia and China plus soon maybe 50 more countries (all being part of BRICS) are standing their ground against the “golden billion”.
I am sure we shall live to see the end of this conflict.
In 1848 all of Europe was is a revolutionary state or civil wars - the monarchs were being overthrown and our modern era of republics started.
Today the civil war idea is being re-kindled from many sides - this time the republic will hopefully vanish and maybe we can try a real direct democracy.
Even the Ukraine conflict is truly a civil war.
Just like most other wars we have seen in the last centuries.
It is west Ukraine (the Azov and Bandera ideology) against south-east Ukraine (Russian ethnicity).
The civil wars will come to US and Europe very soon.
In the end - hopefully humanity will be victorious and will “grow up” and unite against the selfish forces that wish to enslave humanity.
May it be so.

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I am not so sure.

First, we have never ever had such a bunch of complete dunces in charge in the West. When the woman in charge of tiny Denmark promotes war with Russia, we know that common sense and simple self-preservation have gone out the window. And – sadly – she would only be an also-ran in a contest for the stupidest current Western leader.

Second, with the hollowing out of actual conventional military capacities in the West (in contrast with Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, and who knows who else), there is going to be a great temptation for our dumb rulers to go nuclear instead of going home.

Third, if thermonuclear war does not get us, the unavoidable economic collapse from de-industrialized indebtedness will take care of things.

Bottom line is – eat, drink, and be merry! One way or another, an unpleasant outcome is inevitable, and we can’t do anything in our “democracies” to change it. So let’s enjoy things while we still can.

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I think the EU and US have been in a state of cold civil war for some time now.

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carpe diem with moderation and self-respect … you may survive :wink:

The total economically collapse of the west will come, sooner than later, and we will live to see it. There are no buyers for the new debt and so they cannot pay off the old debt. The game is up and the western “leaders” know this fact.

The western “leaders” may want to do something stupid (aka nuke) BUT it is the military that do the job and only very few countries have these firecrackers.

Let’s hope (I know hope is not a strategy but in this scenario we have no other viable strategy) that the military will support the people !
This has just happened in US where the State Department has been neutered.

Always look on the bright side of life.

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?Why in the world would you want to try a “direct democracy”. Show me one instance where a direct democracy did NOT fail. WE have, for all intents and purposes, become a direct democracy. States, once a significant part of the Republic, have been neutered by the 17th. While the act was done in the earlier 20th century, history documents the steady progression of dissolution of freedom as “democracy” intruded and allowed the House to run wild with spending. THIS is ALWAYS the case - when a democracy finds out it can spend money by legislating it for themselvess, the nation is dead.

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When we read Plato “The Republic” it is clear that any form of governance will eventually fail and a revolution is necessary to remove the people that has taken control of the state.
I would like to try direct democracy but maybe not all should be allowed to vote :wink:
So we would have to debate the criteria for voting right.
Here an idea: above 30 years and is contributing to the society in a positive and constructive way.
This has to be debated by the people who survive and not now :wink:

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YouTuber Perun on the UA attacks on Russian depots:

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