Ukraine and Russia: War and Consequences

This is all theatre … nothing about Ukraine is real … it is all scripted.
Elensky does nothing on this own.
He is a trapped comedian … not a statesman or leader of a sovereign country.

The upcoming election will of course only be for Ukrainians living in Ukraine and on the territory controlled by the Kiev government.

There will be no presidential elections :wink:
Most Ukrainians has seen what has happened.
Elensky promised peace … and he gave them war.

Elensky will try to stay “relevant” as if he is the real leader of Ukraine.

Everyone knows that this conflict will be settled between US, Russia and China …
Even EU will have no say in this matter :wink:

Only the adults will talk.

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Even so, what would the US/UK/NATO/EU do if the Ukrainians simply surrender? There are lots of indications that the Ukrainian people are getting restive about the continuing war. No surprise there – recall that the North faced anti-conscription riots in New York during the War Between the States.

The proxy war is existential for the DC Swamp Creatures. If vaunted NATO cannot save the Zelensky regime, then would it be wise for, say, the Baltic states to continue with their aggressive attitude towards Russia? If NATO withers, will the Europeans decide to throw in their lot with dynamic China as a counter-balance to Russia and a diminished US? Faced with this kind of downside, there is a significant risk that the Swamp Creatures will escalate the conflict if the Ukraine tries to settle.

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Ukrainians are no allowed to have their own opinion …
Remember April 2022 …
About Boris Johnson …

Ukraine had a peace deal with Russia that was very favourable to Ukraine.
It was brokered in Turkey with the help of Israel.

The evil cabal of the west wanted this war with Russia so Ukraine was not allowed to have peace.
This conflict is a very tragically outcome of very selfish and stupid western corporate interests.

They will only be allowed to vote now because the conflict is lost and Russia have won.

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https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/evan-gershkovich-free-cde745b3

Among the U.S.-held prisoners included in the swap who are returning to Russia are a pair of notable convicted hackers, both of whom were facing lengthy sentences behind bars.

Vladislav Klyushin, a Russian national described as having “extensive ties” to the Russian president’s office, was sentenced last year to nearly a decade in prison after being found guilty by a federal jury in Boston of hacking into corporate earnings databases to steal and trade on nonpublic information.

Roman Seleznev, the son of a member of the Russian parliament, was described by U.S. prosecutors as “one of the most prolific credit-card thieves in history.” He was convicted in 2016 by a federal jury in Seattle on charges of hacking into hundreds of businesses and selling stolen data online, resulting in more than $169 million in fraud losses.

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There was a time when most of us would have read that and thought – Great! A criminal getting his just deserts!

But after what we have seen of FedGov’s ridiculous lawfare against President Trump, I for one now assume that a probably innocent person became a pawn in the evil machinations of those who rule over us. Yeah! Democracy!

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https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

Nyet means Nyet: Russia’s NATO Enlargement RedLines

Edit: 2008 cable written by William J Burns, ambassador to Russia

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Thanks for posting. Although I considered it an obvious provocation on the part of the West. I don’t have to read minds. I don’t have to have the “experts” tell me how things are. All I had to do was think of it from Russia’s point of view by reversing the situation and thinking what would I think if China would add Mexico as part of an alliance that they use to build a military presence. I don’t even have to imagine this because I know how the US reacted to the Cuban missile crisis.

If the the West offered as part of negotiations that Ukraine would not become part of NATO, I would then give the West credibility.

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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t that exactly what the West said way back when they first helped Ukraine separate itself from Russia. Isn’t that really why Putin is pissed. He certainly didn’t seem to mind when we overthrew the corrupt pro-Russia government and installed a corrupt pro-America government. It was rumblings of NATO membership that got Putin’s goat.

I mean, I think I got that right.

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given that Zelensky was pretty clear on corruption already in the years before presidency, and given how much corruption dropped in Ukraine after ‘breaking up’ with Russia, what makes you say that?

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I forgot how much I enjoyed that series.

And regret that he bought the **&%^$^&% that he was seduced by to provoke Russia with the NATO issue.

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I don’t think there’s much doubt about the level of corruption in the present day Ukrainian government. It is Zelensky’s government. Someone has to be accountable. The CIA certainly doesn’t much care, so long as their objectives are met. That should be obvious from their history since their inception after WWII - it is rife with examples of “our” corrupt “allies”, installed by CIA coup.

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Russian military commentator re Kursk:

Having opened another operational direction by breaking through to the territory of the Kursk region, the enemy naturally extended the general line of combat contact. Extending the front line requires corresponding forces. The enemy has gathered such forces and struck. He struck quite successfully, he has enough strength to develop and consolidate the success, and the depletion of the enemy’s potential in the Kursk direction has not yet been observed.

From our side, reserves continue to arrive in the direction. At the same time, the forces involved continue to be insufficient even for stable stabilization of the situation, not to mention the defeat of the enemy group. They are not enough not only quantitatively, but also qualitatively. On the enemy side, there are fairly well-equipped units and formations. From the fire brigades, we have so far a hodgepodge on a patchwork quilt, and meager in numbers.

I won’t take it upon myself to judge some units and formations of the strategic reserve, but, as the events of the last few days have shown, we don’t have many operational reserves at all - to stop the crisis, reserves are being transferred from other sections of the front, and not only from the nearest Kharkov direction, but also from other directions (including those in which our troops have had at least some limited successes in the last few months), thus further weakening our already thinning ranks in these directions.

The reserves arriving from other areas are, by definition, mostly undermanned due to the existing losses. These losses are often quite large due to the poor organization of combat work with poorly supported attacks within the framework of a strategy that requires an offensive in all possible areas. Plus, not all formations and units can be pulled out from other directions entirely, since they are directly involved in offensive actions. As a result, against initially fully equipped formations and units of the enemy group, we have to a large extent a scattering of orgzyks of the type of the sagging BTGs of the summer of 2022.

Add to this the enemy’s advantage in military-technical means (including communication systems and UAVs), organizational structures (primarily in individual units and subdivisions of strike UAVs) and a flexible operational control system that allows us to adequately respond to changes in the situation and promptly inflict fire damage on identified targets, and we get a very specific assessment of the activities of our top military leadership, including, first of all, Chief of the General Staff Gerasimov.

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There is some interesting speculation about why the Ukrainian leadership, with a 1,000 kilometer front to choose from, elected to launch an attack into Russia along the line of that remaining gas pipeline feeding Russian gas to the EU and leading to a nuclear power plant.

Anyone who knew what was planned, with foreseeable impacts on EU energy prices, could have made a fortune in the futures markets. If such speculation turns out to have some truth – pity the poor bastards who had to die so that someone back in Kiev could make money.

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Mearsheimer is now putting up a paywall and asking for paid subscribers to support him?

So far he’s fallen…

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The article from TASS provides a summary of his substack essay

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Which is not to say that Russian opinion on this doesn’t matter - and I thank you for bringing this article to my attention @Citizen_bitcoin.

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Paywalls are the rule not the exception for Substack. Very few writers on Substack are completely free. I can’t think of any.

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Elizabeth Nickson. She’s a Canadian journalist who writes some powerful stuff. She does accept donations, but what she writes is not behind a paywall.

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With speculation that the Zelensky regime is planning to follow up on its invasion of Kursk with nuclear “dirty bomb” attacks there and/or at Zaporozhiye, there is an interesting (albeit long) comment on the physics of the potential nuclear contamination at Simplicius’s blog. Worth reading. With a hat tip to commentator “John Galtsky”, his observations are repeated below:

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A few comments, starting with a technical answer to a technical question:

“But logically speaking, why would you need nuclear material of your own, if you already plan to hit the storage casks which contain spent fuel rods, if you want to create a nuclear contamination incident?”

Short answer: either as a military weapon to create killing radiation using isotopes not normally found in spent nuclear fuel, or as an area-denial weapon to contaminate an inconveniently large area with relatively non-lethal but still dangerous isotopes in a way that cannot be accomplished by targeting spent fuel casks. In both cases, setting off such a weapon over the fuel storage area will sow confusion and generate fear propaganda because of widespread ignorance and fear of spent nuclear fuel.

Onward to a fuller explanation…

Spent nuclear fuel storage casks are exceptionally strong, very thick steel and concrete containers that each contain a relatively limited amount of spent fuel so that heat doesn’t build up. Even a very massive warhead, as in the largest of Kiev’s available cruise missiles, might not break through them but just scatter them in mostly intact form. Artillery rounds and smaller warheads as found on Kiev’s longer range or smaller drones are unlikely to do any significant damage to the casks.

Contrary to popular myth, the spent fuel rods inside those storage casks are not all that dangerous in any event. They’ve been cooling with their active elements decaying for years now, so the really active, and thus highly radioactive elements in them have already decayed, leaving those elements that have longer half lives, which means they decay much slower and thus emit much less radioactivity. You still wouldn’t want to be handling it or standing around it taking selfies while embracing the spent fuel rods, but it’s not remotely as dangerous as people think in panic, believing it will kill you in minutes through a crack in the cask at 100 paces.

The paradoxical thing about radioactive hazards is that radioactivity comes from decaying nuclei. The more nuclei decay per second, the more radioactivity you get. But each nucleus decays only once. Radioactive elements which emit the most radioactivity do so because they have lots of nuclei that are decaying very rapidly with short half lives. But because they have lots of nuclei decaying rapidly, the number of nuclei that are available to decay drops very rapidly.

So what’s a dangerous dose?

A dose of about 500 rems all at once is enough that over a period of days or a week or two you’ll die. The first day it is pulled from a reactor a spent fuel assembly emits about 10,000 rems per hour. That sounds ferocious, but it works out to only 166 rems per minute. You could stand safely far away, run up to the fuel rod and snap a quick selfie, and then run back, the whole process taking 20 seconds and you’d only get 56 rems. That’s not enough that most people would feel any effects beyond possibly feeling like they were hungover for a few days. Hug the fuel assembly for three minutes and yes, you’d die within a couple of weeks, but no, even fresh out of the reactor it won’t kill you in seconds at a hundred paces.

The radioactivity of the spent fuel assembly declines fairly rapidly after that. In a few years it would be emitting less than 1000 rems per hour. In 40 years it would emit about 10 rems per hour, giving you a lower dose in an hour than the cosmic ray radiation flight crews absorb in airplanes in a year or two of flying between the US and Europe.

The type of radiation also matters. Most fission products in spent fuel emit beta radiation, which is extremely weak: a sheet of thick cardboard will stop it. They’re not dangerous unless you inhale them or ingest them, because then their atoms can be close enough to sensitive cells in your body to kill them within the very short range their radiation can travel.

More dangerous are fission products that emit penetrating gamma radiation. The classic example is cobalt 60, an artificial isotope of cobalt that emits very high power gamma radiation. It has a half life of 4.3 years, which means half of it is gone ever 4.3 years. But spent fuel rods do not contain significant amounts of cobalt 60 because there’s no starting, inert cobalt in those rods to begin with. You have to deliberately create cobalt 60 in a reactor by substituting some of the fuel rods with rods that are inert cobalt 59, which the reactor over time will transform into cobalt 60.

The fission products in spent fuel that people panic about are things like iodine 129 which is a weak beta emitter with a half life of 15.7 million years, and technetium 99, also a weak beta emitter with a half life of 211,000 years. As weak as they are, people panic about them getting into the food chain and thus being ingested by humans. They may be very weak radioactive elements, but because they are long lived people panic about even small amounts of them being in the environment. But when you compare their possible very long term lethality (through causing cancer or whatever), they’re not remotely as dangerous as heavy metals like cadmium or lead, which hang around forever and don’t decay, and which are pumped into the environment through leaded fuels and such to the tune of millions of tons.

Kiev’s best plan for a dirty bomb is to have replaced some of the fuel rods in the reactors Kiev controls with cobalt rods over the past ten years, and perhaps also cesium breeding rods, to build up a stock of highly radioactive cobalt 60 plus lots of highly radioactive cesium 137 (30 years half life, also a strong gamma emitter). Wrap the cobalt 60 and cesium 137 around explosives and you have a “dirty” bomb that will make it very dangerous for people to enter the region where it was exploded because the gamma radiation would be enough to sicken or even kill soldiers spending tens of minutes or hours in the immediate area of the explosion, likely a region that is the size of a couple of football fields depending on how much cobalt 60 they have.

That could deny access to the Zaporozhiye nuclear plant, and it could seriously enrage Russia as a bona fide “nuclear” attack, pushing Russia into a strong enough escalatory response to cause direct war between Russia and the US/NATO.

A second possibility is to take spent fuel rods from Kiev’s nuclear plants and to extract the 4% of material which are fission products, concentrating the spent fuel down to the 4% that is strongly radioactive. Those will be mostly beta emitters with radiation that the thickness of your skin would stop, but they would be very active initially and then some of them would hang around for a long time leading to a long term decontamination task for the area they contaminated. Kiev could then wrap a few hundred kilograms of that around explosives and set that off over the Zaporozhiye plant, hoping to generate a Chernobyl-style exclusion zone and to foment panic in civilian populations.

Other than the “enraging Russia” bit, from a military perspective that would be a very local denial of access because of the limited ability of Kiev to deliver enough extracted fission products and to vaporize them effectively for wide dispersion by wind. Chernobyl involved many tons of fission products that were vaporized and dispersed by huge amounts of energy from a reactor core burning with the assisted power of an active, massive, out of control, nuclear chain reaction. A dirty bomb can deliver far smaller amounts of fission products, and those would be pulverized and dispersed by a chemical explosive with a tiny fraction of the power of the Chernobyl event.

Given that virtually nobody in the West knows anything about such matters and the very few who do lie about them as shills for the US, all we will hear is that Russia blew up its own fuel storage facility and the result is widespread contamination reaching into Ukraine and Europe. All the technical evidence demonstrating that’s a lie will go unreported or ignored.

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